What shoes you wearing now and what next?

The Saucony endorphin speed is a great shoe for distance and short stuff. I wore the speeds for a 50km long run in the summer and my first sub 20 parkrun soon after. You won't go far wrong with them. I have a pair of pro's and found they are not as forgiving with sessions, not great on easy/warm up bits, they really do come into their own when running tempo. Any session I have long intervals or fartlek I wear them. Possibly a race shoe but have to find that out yet, might wear them for a HM TT in feb.

(Go me)>>> I have a pair of vaporflys next% 2 and they are everything people say they are, wonderful shoe. I wear them for tempo stuff and plan on using them in my next marathon. But a bit expensive for more than that.

In short, if I only had the speeds I reckon I would be happy.

The one I'm referring to is vaporfly next%. The next%2 is the follow on then. I think it has a different upper to the first.

Well yeah...I don't because there's always eventually a deal to be had. The alphafly could be got for 160 recently, down from 300. Never pay full price for any of these shoes. There's always deals!

I really like the endorphin pro - ran a great Marathon in October in them and will using again this year for longer runs and marathons. My daily runner is the Kinvara so it seemed like a natural progression. I havent tried the Nike either.

No issue with the toe coming out on them but the upper is very light. I find if there's a lot of surface water on the roads my socks are wet through in a flash and feet can get quite cold especially if it's at the start of a long run 🙄 First world problems really 😅 Thanks very much. We have been very similar throughout the last few years and I have no doubt you are capable of a similar marathon, you just need a few things to come together for it happen 🤞🤞

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How do you find the transition from Kinvara into Endorphin Pro in terms of sole flexibility? My main shoe is Kinvara but I also use other flexible sole shoes like Hyperion Tempo. Any other shoes that I've tried that don't have flexible soles, e.g. Pegasus, Endorphin Shift, have given me calf and shin issues. I think it's because the non-flexible soles force my foot to stay rigid and then roll off that rigid foot whereas the flexible soles allow me to bend my foot to get up on my toes when pushing off. I think I'd have the same issue with plated shoes. I've felt them in shops and they feel rigid, and while the supposed performance improvements are tempting I don't want to blow big money on them if they won't work for me -- I've done that with other shoes and don't want to do it again.

Unfortunately I'm addicted to this website, can't rate them highly enough.

Only thing to note is that they seem to have switched to Fast Way from An Post as delivery provider in the past 6mths or so.

While I've never had an issue, I know some people don't like that particular courier.

I think I would have a similar running style to how you describe and the EPs felt a bit unstable (like high heels compared to Kinvaras) and also rigid when I first tried them on (It took a few kms for me to get stable on them). I dont know the technicalities of the shoe but yeah the EPs were noticably less felexible to feel but then when running the plate inside pushed me forward and I was landing on the ball of my feet and rolling onto the toes. Maybe the flexibility is in the plate.. more knowledgeable posters might know this..

You'll kick off a whole debate on pronation and "support" if you're not careful 😂

You'll get very different opinions on this from people. I don't necessarily agree with pronation being a problem and I think people are given "support" shoes far too often when they dont need them all because places like Elvery's want to sell Brooks or Asics support shoes.............but anyway...................

If you think pronation and support is a concern for you then do you really want to be running on shoes that are designed to be very very lightweight and in most cases have a very high stack? That being said, of the carbon plated shoes i've worn, the Alphafly, Vaporfly Next%, Adios Pro offer little to no support. The Endorphin Pro are as close as I've seen to a "normal" runner although people have noted they found them unstable. That hasn't been my experience. The Fuelcell TC , you could argue are not supershoes, but offer some bit of stability. The Endorphin Speed aren't supershoes but do have a carbon plate and are probably the most stable of the lot (but people have noted some grip issues in the wet).

Decisions, decisions eh?

You are probably wondering how I distinguish between super and non supershoe. For me the supershoes are the two top Nike shoes and then all the shoes that were designed to compete with those i.e. Adios Pro, Endorphin Pro, Fuelcell RC Elite. The non-supershoes are high end training shoes (just my opinion).

I think maybe keep them in her rotation but build up more slowly to wearing them, 1 run per week or even part of a run/session.

I also have high arches. You can also tell if your gait by the wear on your shoes? I'm neutral and it's very clear by examining the wear pattern on shoes that have 2-300 miles on them.