2022 In Between Grand Slam Thread

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 3:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118421884#Comment_118421884

Three hours since he landed and he's still not been let through! Doubt this will come to anything though, seems more like it was a paperwork mistake than anything else.

05-01-2022 3:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118421948#Comment_118421948

lol.

I've already said that I support vaccines many times.

Djokovic was stupid to publicly put out his stance in 2020 about vaccines when asked about it but at least he realised his mistake there and sought to ensure since that the true anti-vax loopers couldn't use him for their nefarious purposes.

He has refused to be drawn on the subject since.

Djokovic used the process that's there in this case.

If you can't understand that such a process was going to exist in the absence of Djokovic then I can't help that.

Couldn't be simpler.

I'm giving my interpretation of Djokovic's thinking - I don't care whether you want to agree with that interpretation or not really.

You have proven more than once that you are likely to fly off the handle and come up with crazy accusations ("bribery" being the latest and greatest!) and seething hatred outbursts when something goes Djokovic's way or he does such and such - it's actually comical to behold!

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 3:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118421994#Comment_118421994

I'll try one last time 😂

I'm not arguing with how the exemption process works or it's existence, rather the fact that there was no legitimate reason for him to use it at all. There is no valid reason as to why a healthy 34 year old cannot be vaccinated against covid-19. The fact that you can't answer simple questions, deflect and attack when backed into a corner proves that you know this too.

You have proven more than once that you are likely to fly off the handle and come up with crazy accusations ("bribery" being the latest and greatest!) and seething hatred outbursts when something goes Djokovic's way or he does such and such - it's actually comical to behold!

Again, this is just more pure nonsense. I've never at any stage "flown off the handle" and partaken in any "seething hatred outbursts", and it's amusing that you perceive any criticism to be that. Now to be fair I did call him a c*nt yesterday because let's be honest here, he has been a bit of a c*nt throughout this saga. But I criticise lots of players when they behave poorly, Serena and Kyrgios being two of the many examples, it's a normal part of being a sports fan and engaging in discussion. Repeating myself here I know, but your lack of self awareness is something else. You obviously never read back your own posts on here or possess any insight into how you come across. The weirdly personal attacks on posters/commentators who dare to say a bad word about Djokovic, your clear issues with women.. it's strange. Difficult to use this thread at the moment tbh, but I guess this is what happens when moderation disappears ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 4:09pm

Anyway, in spite of the shitshow of the last 24 hours, there is actually being tennis played at the moment!

Kokkinakis got a great win over Tiafoe in Adelaide, into the QF's. Can never fully work out what's going on with Thanasi, if it's injuries or just poor form, but he's rarely able to consistently string a few wins together.

Barty got pushed hard by Gauff, was down a set and a break but managed to pull through. Osaka was taken to three sets by Cornet in her first match since losing at the US Open. Osaka wouldn't exactly be a favourite of mine anymore (to say the least) but I guess it would be good for tennis to see her string a few wins together. I expect she'll withdraw before she has a chance to lose though.

Itssoeasy · 05-01-2022 4:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118421884#Comment_118421884

Well shock horror because the whole thing has been a clusterfuck. Between tennis Australia, the Victorian government, the Australia government they’ve all been scrambling and an issue with his visa was mentioned in a Clip I saw last night from an Australian news channel so interesting to see there’s a holdup.

05-01-2022 4:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422144#Comment_118422144

so bribery is not a crazy accusation ..... right....

and I think that you just proved the point about the flying off the handle yourself in your own response.

I don't have access to Djokovic's medical history or what reasoning he / his team put into the exemptions process - do you?

That is why I can't answer that specific question.

I don't feel "backed into a corner" there in the slightest on that point - that's actually just bizarre projection on your behalf.

But if you read more carefully I did say yesterday that I hazarded a guess that he may have used something to do with the "mental" exclusions that some of the criteria apparently might provide for.

But that's just a guess.

Again I obviously don't know Djokovic's personal medical history!

It's actually quite baffling that you keep pushing that line tbh

As for the other stuff we have been over this before so I don't see the need to address it again - I believe that the standard of tennis on the WTA is on the whole is completely inconsistent and generally shite (and has been the case for a long time) and don't see why exactly it is compensated completely uniquely at the Grand Slams and some other tournaments unlike any other professional sport in the world (men's or women's) where ratings and value to advertisers determine the compensation.

05-01-2022 5:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422250#Comment_118422250

The Australians between their federal and regional authorities making themselves look like right muppets tbh

Sales of popcorn must be through the roof due to this!

Speculation is that Djokovic's reason for exemption is a recent Covid infection.

Whatever about the actual multi-level medical exemption process - will it pass the boards' biddy test?

There is no valid reason as to why a healthy 34 year old cannot be vaccinated against covid-19

.... You never know who might assume that he had some covid party or something to deliberately contract it - surely the next "il logical" assumption to jump to for some!

Some of these Feds are pulling out all the stops to prevent Djokovic having a chance of getting to 21 slams!

Are the cameras rolling 😂 ? ->

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zojgSG1HAEs

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 6:10pm

https://twitter.com/ozmo_sasa/status/1478774007759609863

Oh my 😬

Difficult to know how this is going to play out until we get the full facts, but my first hunch is that this may be just some sort of stunt by the Australian government? They'll relent in a few hours time when they've made it look like they've done all they could to make sure correct procedures were followed. On the other hand, if this is a paperwork/visa issue then maybe it could pan out differently. I obviously don't know of all the intricacies involved in getting into Australia, but a lot of the commentary I've seen so far has said that if all your papers aren't 100% correct then you're turned away at the airport and will be on the first flight out. I very much doubt that will happen in this case, but will be interesting to see how this plays out. Either way, it's not going to be as seamless as the Djokovic camp were perhaps hoping it would.

05-01-2022 6:52pm

Apparently the situation is something like as follows ->

Federal government putting it up to the state government to give the final say-so if they are going to let Djokovic in,

So effectively then they (state) would be seen as the ones for the public to point the finger at giving the final "yes" on entry and public backlash would be directed at the state!

State effectively saying that it's a Federal issue!

The 20-time grand slam winner was attempting to enter the country on a visa that does not permit medical exemptions for being unvaccinated, a source briefed on the matter told The Age and the Herald.

As a result, Border Force sought Victorian government support to facilitate his entry. The federal agency asked for the Andrews government’s support because Victoria partners with Tennis Australia in running the event that Djokovic’s visa pertains to.

Federal authorities contacted Victorian departmental officials asking them to formally back his application. Victorian officials asked the federal authorities to put their request in writing and eventually rejected the request to sponsor Djokovic’s visa.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/visa-bungle-delays-novak-djokovic-s-entry-into-australia-20220105-p59m75.html

Royale with Cheese · 05-01-2022 7:03pm

They'll let him in. It's turned into a fiasco now, they can't afford not to.

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 7:16pm

Still at the airport

https://twitter.com/paulsakkal/status/1478801484137447424

Meanwhile, Srdjan Djokovic not taking this well

https://twitter.com/AdamAddicott/status/1478802945043017737

Itssoeasy · 05-01-2022 7:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422692#Comment_118422692

Well I saw a clip of channel 9 news who went out and interviewed people in Melbourne and they were less than happy to put it mildly given that they have been under restrictions and have had to follow the rules and they aren’t happy that a tennis player in their eyes seems to be getting “preferential treatment” and that’s why the politicians seem to be having a conniption because the voters, sorry people are pissed off over this. That’s the issue.

05-01-2022 7:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423079#Comment_118423079

yes - I said that in my next post about the impasse between State and Federal.

it's become a projection for frustrations at prior governmental pandemic policy decisions.

get that fully.

and now the different politicians are struggling how to handle it and trying to avoid carrying the can!

who knows what is going to happen? - complete and utter mess whatever goes down eventually!

05-01-2022 7:40pm

"Hello Federal Immigration Australia? Yes I have some very important information on the visa requirements for a certain Mr.Djokovic"

https://imgur.com/lqiPsUf

Girly Gal · 05-01-2022 8:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118422692#Comment_118422692

I knew it was Federer behind this all along 🤣!

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 8:10pm

Decision apparently coming inside the next two hours. I'd be deeply shocked if he's turned away, I think this is all about making a point. Either way though, it's been fun seeing him being made to sweat it out for a while 😂

05-01-2022 8:19pm

If it was some Djokovic "team" member responsible for applying for / filling out the visa form I wouldn't fancy being them.

Some debacle either way for all involved really.

Different dynamics at play at this point.

Djokovic far from the only one to make use of the exemptions process.

Does put things into perspective a little.

https://twitter.com/Clijsterskim/status/1478510124809474053

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1478737829349965825

Investigative reports · 05-01-2022 8:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118415071#Comment_118415071

Because of money and his reputation he gets treated favourably. He doesn't deserve it.

JP Liz V1 · 05-01-2022 8:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423385#Comment_118423385

World No. 1 Novak Djokovic of course gets special treatment, all should be treated the same

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 9:10pm

The circus rumbles on

https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/1478834732389523460

https://twitter.com/josemorgado/status/1478832184316383234

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 9:21pm

Uh-oh

https://twitter.com/paulsakkal/status/1478836799195664386

https://twitter.com/josemorgado/status/1478839010520928259

05-01-2022 9:23pm

What an omnishambles

It's all gone Pete Tong

Where can it all possibly go from here!?

https://twitter.com/cokeefe9/status/1478837165589024768?t=7A7urKOZwGVQ4Wa5p8Mh5Q&s=08

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 9:26pm

Even if he is deported, could he potentially make it back in time for the Australian Open start date? No idea how long it'd take him to get another visa.

Itssoeasy · 05-01-2022 9:27pm

Well the prime minister did say if everything wasn’t up to date and is dotted and Ts crossed then he wouldn’t be left it and it seems he won’t be left in. I mean if nothing else it shows that they are going to enforce their rules as they have them laid out and nobody will get special treatment but I probably didn’t need to come to this to prove that point.

05-01-2022 9:28pm

It's fcuking Saipan with tennis balls.

Itssoeasy · 05-01-2022 9:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423793#Comment_118423793

😂😂 So who’s the Labrador and Tommie Gorman in this situation ?

edit: Tony O Donoughue was involved but he didn’t interview Roy keane.

Royale with Cheese · 05-01-2022 9:39pm

If he hadn't sent that tweet telling the world he was delighted to soon be entering Australia unvaccinated I'm sure he'd have been in his hotel hours ago. I guess he could have also just got vaccinated. Still I'm surprised they've told him to fúck off.

klr87 · 05-01-2022 9:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423775#Comment_118423775

Depending on why he is being deported (subject to appeal), it may not be possible to get a visa in the short term, as the facts might (only might) still be against him.

Nothing about this surprises me. The Federal government has seen the pubic sentiment, and it does not want to be seen to be bending the rules for the rich and famous, Nor is Djokovic's flat-out refusal to get vaccinated a shock.

05-01-2022 10:01pm

The brave 1-post heroes have arrived (too afraid to post under own account - truly bizarre!)

Again, would NOT want to be in the shoes of whatever "team" Djokovic member made the visa balls-up!

Will surely be looking for a "new role" soon.

It has all become conflated; politics, pandemic policy resentment, visa errors, vaccines, tennis, the 26 exemption applicants but only 1 matters?, choice, international diplomacy - and ended up in a complete international debacle!

whiterebel · 05-01-2022 10:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118423079#Comment_118423079

Plus the bad feeling from last year when 30,000+ Australians couldn’t get back to Australia, but the tennis players could.

lostcat · 05-01-2022 10:09pm

Omnishambles is a good way to describe it. No one is coming out of this well, the hand wringing which took place while Djokovic was in the air are sickening, but that's politics. I wonder if the other 5 players who got exemptions were held for several hours in similar fashion? I presume not but then again, they presumably didn't leave it until the last minute to sort out an exemption.

Djokovic has become a political football, but he brought it on himself. He has continually failed to read the room in relation to covid and what people internationally were going through and how this would make them feel about unvaccinated people 'swanning around'.

Serbia and adjoining countries are and have been basically fully open for most of the pandemic (the Adria Tour was perfectly legal, in those terms). So a Serb may not fully understand or sympathise with a Aussie who has been through considerable hardship. A tennis player who has spent most of the year doing international travel and probalby dosent have anyone in his bubble calling him an ass may not fully understand it either.

It really is a pity, no one wins here, well, apart from Medvedev...

Theres also talk of the French stopping unvaccinated rubgy players entering the country in the coming months, so the next slam might prove difficult to play in too. Then again, Monaco/France may not count as an actual border.

yerwanthere123 · 05-01-2022 10:15pm

https://twitter.com/ScottMorrisonMP/status/1478848008363991049

gmisk · 05-01-2022 10:16pm

Ha ha well for him....delighted...absolute clown

Faugheen · 05-01-2022 10:18pm

This is honestly so entertaining.

05-01-2022 10:34pm

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424205#Comment_118424205

not at all.

it's just all a mess.

he's not done yet in tennis.

I'm more worried about what sort of pathetic sad sack has to create a new boards account to think that they might be able to annoy people but just ends up looking like a... pathetic sad sack

You're on ignore - so sorry your trolling is not even being seen - even more sad and pathetic for you!

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Girly Gal · 05-01-2022 10:39pm

How could Djokovic's team go to all this trouble to get the exemption and then balls up the visa, they managed to follow the process to allow him play at the AO, but, failed to follow the process to enter the country, absolutely ridiculous, you'd imagine they'd have everything in order. It'll be very difficult for him to overturn this in time to play, what could well happen is it will be overturned, but, too late for him to play. It'll be very interesting if he does manage to get to play at the AO, which looks very unlikely now.

castletownman · 05-01-2022 10:39pm

I wonder will the Serbian President still be fighting for justice and truth if the true extent of his "diet change" ever emerges.

josip · 05-01-2022 10:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424087#Comment_118424087

The US also currently require non-US citizens to be fully vaccinated so in the case of not being allowed to compete in Roland Garros, that would only leave Wimbledon for him to compete in.

Itssoeasy · 05-01-2022 10:56pm

The Australian ambassador to Serbia has apparently been summoned to the office of the Serbian president according to BBC five live. It’s getting a bit out of hand now. And a texter to the show said if you need to be vaxxed to attend the event, why shouldn’t you need one to play.

05-01-2022 11:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424340#Comment_118424340

Well Wimbledon was always going to be his best chance of a slam this year 🤣

If it remains that way will really be putting his convictions to the test!

I wonder what's going to happen with the other 5 applicants who were granted exemptions - will they be sent home from Australia also now if they have the wrong visa applied for...?

Maybe they are in the country already....

05-01-2022 11:24pm

I wonder if we’ll see him on the Border Security tv show?

05-01-2022 11:51pm

As if the plot wasn't thickened enough already

https://twitter.com/ossianshine/status/1478848059480158212?s=20

Gael23 · 05-01-2022 11:57pm

Will he face a an exclusion period from Australia now?

06-01-2022 12:11am

"Hello, Mastercard? Yes, is it too late to get a chargeback on this transaction?"

https://twitter.com/ZokkaNS/status/1478812002655117315

Augme · 06-01-2022 12:15am

Australians/their politicalians/their government depts are actually managing come across worse than Novak in all of this. That's quite an achievement.

john9876 · 06-01-2022 12:27am

#NovaxDjokovic is trending on twitter 😀

yerwanthere123 · 06-01-2022 12:31am

Oh Novax, you couldn't make this sh*t up really. All of this easily could've been avoided if he'd simply rolled up his sleeve like the hundreds of millions of people around the world have. He's the sole author of his own misfortune, what an absolute f*cking simpleton this man is 😂😂😂

06-01-2022 12:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118424659#Comment_118424659

Don't think that this story is finished with yet if possible inconsistencies are proven correct.

Pure debacle.

06-01-2022 12:40am

He truly is the greatest returner of all time.

Rjd2 · 06-01-2022 1:45am

If he had kept quiet regarding the "medical exemption" then he would have been fine, but I can understand Joe Bloggs thinking he was bragging thus a government looking for a distraction took advantage. Its a **** show all round where nobody comes out of looking good.

2022 In Between Grand Slam Thread

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