US Maniac cops at it again, this time in LA.

Programmed Cops: "If you don't drop that cheeseburger immediately and kick it away from you we'll have no choice but to riddle you with bullets until you're no longer a threat"

Free-thinking Gardai: "You might as well eat that before it goes cold"

I could buy a gun off Snapchat and have it delivered in about 40 minutes to an hour and that's not an exclusive service. It's openly advertised.

That's the point though, it's not exclusive and they're not ''arms dealers'' persay they're just your average drug dealer which your kid and everybody elses kids can access with ease. Hence saying only hardened criminal have access to guns here is just naive.

We're also a country where you can legally hold a firearm and many people do, both in Dublin and in the country so your just talking out of the side of your neck really.

Think back to the Blanchardstown siege there a while ago where that nut used two guns on the Gardai but had another one parked off in the shed as well.

That's rubbish, even your average drug dealer does not have such easy access to guns, nor is he going to deliver one within 40 minutes unless he's your crack or heroin dealer?

Either way if you're not lying then chances are he's most likely talking out his ass to make himself look cool.

There is a small chance he does have a rusty old handgun buried in a field somewhere and he's trying to find someone stupid enough to buy it but it's very unlikely he actually sells guns.

I'm not talking out of my neck, I lived in Dublin my whole life I never knew of one person who owned a gun legally or illegally.

How the hell is that argument valid? The United States is not disputed territory claimed by two countries, in Northern Ireland there was a viable alternative to the RUC/British army whose right to authority was highly disputed, please tell me what the alternative is to the US police? And despite what many people believe black people are actually accurately represented in the police force of the US whereas in Northern Ireland the RUC was 98% protestant who would prosecute you for as little as being in possession of the Irish flag which was illegal.

The vast majority of the most dangerous areas in the United States are predominantly black so it doesn't take a genius to work out why black people are being killed way more percentage wise than white people.

I'm tired of people in Ireland jumping on the bandwagon of hating the police which has been made popular by brain dead rappers and celebrities.

My point was that people should not be promoting hatred of the police, the vast majority of which are doing a NECESSARY job that every country needs, there is no alternative to the US police which is why it is completely different to hating the RUC and army in Northern Ireland as there was an immediate, viable and far better alternative to them.

Don't get me wrong, I have no love whatsoever for any members of the police who abuse their power and deliberately kill someone when there is little or no threat to their lives or others around them, but I in no way condone the hatred towards the police force as a whole, which are completely necessary for any country so why would anyone who is not a thug be promoting hatred like some of the people on this thread saying things like ''they are all scum'' and so on, what people should be advocating for is reform rather than promoting hatred for people doing one of the most important jobs for any country to survive.

There is no hypocrisy involved whatsoever, the job of the police in the USA is completely necessary whereas in Northern Ireland it was not necessary as there was another alternative to the RUC and army to make the logic of hating the police not moronic.

If policing is so easy and police officers should be infallible, you should have a go at being a cop. That'd be interesting.

There have been shootings in the past where the police have been wildly reckless or gun happy. Nobody is denying that. This incident isn't quite so clear. The guy was armed, had just seriously injured someone and the cops didn't know exactly what he was armed with. I've no problem with cops shooting someone who is armed and is a danger to them or others. Clearly this guy was a danger as he was actively flailing the fcuk out of someone with the bike lock a few moments earlier. It's just unfortunate that there was a ricochet (apparently) that killed the girl.

I also have no problems with RUC officers shooting people who are attacking them (even though if I lived in the North during the Troubles I would have likely been one of those attacking the RUC).

Training for cops could be better but it will never be perfect. Incidents where bullets ricochet or go through someone will always happen. The only hope is that with better training, those types of incidents will hopefully be reduced.