Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

Not an expert on airline law... if it was a ship I would say once you are outside irish waters you can do what you like.

A raffle might be a special case as you are not purchasing a (guaranteed) service. Id imagine of it was abused - like a 1 euro ticket and half the people win - itd be next in the firing line.

Different rules already apply to airlines. e.g., they can sell/give you alcohol at times that no other licensed premises could. So they must be operating outside Irish legislation already.

The GAA raffle should have been cleared/licensed by the local garda station. I suspect there'd be no issue with an alcohol prize as long as it's a bona fida raffle under accepted norms. But by the same extension Tesco can't sell you a raffle ticket for 1cent if you spend €50 on alcohol, with 99% of tickets winning 4 cans. That wouldn't be a valid raffle.

Too many vested interests with a lot to lose if your idea was implemented.

I'm struggling to see how I twisted figures about drug deaths and MUP.

The spike was before MUP and continued through MUP.

So MUP is not responsible for the spike in drug deaths..

You know loads about him.

Can you prove his figures are bullcrap or is that just an opinion ?

Just wait till the citizens assembly start looking into decriminalising drugs as has been mooted, then you will see how much of a dinosaur this man really is as he still refers to cannibis as a gateway drug and yet he's in charge of our drugs policies.

This is the second time you have tried to say the spike in drug related deaths in Scotland was before MUP when the figures clearly show the deaths per year have continued to increase since its introduction. I've no reason to keep repeating myself and as I said before you can draw your own conclusions from the figures that show many more deaths per year now from drugs in Scotland with an increase in these numbers each year since MUP has been in force there.

I find it equally ridiculous that the figures that show record deaths from alcohol two years after MUP came into force in Scotland are also being shrugged off as insignificant just because the poster claims the report does not reference specifically MUP. The way your tunnel vision is working in this discusion makes me think the two of you might just be from AAI yourselves and responsible for this rediculous legislation that is so prejudiced against people on lower incomes.

Any update on your claim that you'd need to buy 1300 bottles of beer to break even on a trip to the North?

To put that absurd claim into real terms,in pre Covid travel times you could travel from the vast majority of capital cities anywhere on the planet to Newry and back for less than €2600.(That figure is the increase that I would pay for my favoured beer x 1300)

You know you're losing when you resort to this kind of dishonesty.You seem to be able to put a sentence together and don't come across as dumb.....so you know this is not true,yet you're here raging against the tide.

I might get a bit emotive and people can have different opinions but if you can't put your point across honestly then I'll leave you to it.

Did you ever look for any evidence about the outcomes so far in Scotland from MUP? Instead of taking your conclusions from studies which have nothing to do with it. I googled MUP Scotland Studies, and there are plenty of links, none of which I looked at in detail. I would say it is too soon to draw definitive conclusions. If it becomes apparent that the MUP is too low, it can always be increased to see if that will improve public health.

I'm absolutely loving how the pro MUP blowhards are losing their absolute **** over some posters making a choice to spend their money as they see fit up north.

Its the same how they want to control what little luxuries anyone can buy.

Maybe everyone on the thread should give their bank cards over to the zealots so they can be kept safe from exercising their mad free will and run every purchase through them. Probably arrange it 3 days in advance so they can have a committee meeting on whether you are losing the run of yourself.

They'll be asking you to cut back on avocado's and take out coffees next....

You are already calling for MUP to be increased within less than a week of it coming into force. My guess that you must be from AAI and therefore responsible for this forerunner of complete prohibition of alcohol might not be too far off the mark. If it is shown that MUP has not been effective (as seems apparent to me from record levels of drug related deaths and deaths from alcohol in years since it has been in force there) will it be removed just to allow people on low incomes have less financial stress?