Djokovic

Well if your argument is that people are entitled to be morons, then yes they are indeed.

And other people are entitled to then label them morons.

I think Gregor Ssmsa summed it up quite well.

The only thing I will add is that there is modern phenomenon that has come into play over the last decade or so and it is this idea that all beliefs no matter how cock a mamie deserve equal billing or standing in discussions.

It is also at play when discussing cultures.

No wonder we have flat earthers and the like when you have people defending the proponents based on a mindset that they are entitled to their beliefs and the rest of us can't ridicule them as idiots.

Also there seems to be a concerted effort by some to be totally anti science.

!4th century Rome would have been proud.

You’d wonder how this clown is still on Australian soil.

Any chance this post could be stickied in every forum on Boards? Brilliantly put together. Weird how mad forums and social media have become since the early days.

Has he been deported?

Well considering Omicron is spreading like wildfire all those who never got vaccinated are going to have natural antibodies.

he appealed so he is in a hotel until the appeal is heard.

Of course not all beliefs opinions and views are equally valid. Somethings are certifiably fact and it doesn’t matter how many people “agree” with or “support” any particular idea, if it is wrong it is wrong it is wrong and needs to be called out.

Where the problems start is when people take it a step further and decide that if a vocally loud group decide that they disapprove of a particular opinion, then that opinion must be silenced.

This notion of “deplatforming”people who veer even slightly away from what is actually quite a small group have decided is the only way to think is very dangerous and if it’s not arrested it will be very harmful.

That's just silly, Novak is a good guy, not some far right nutjob. The guy had covid, has antibodies, and does not want to get vaccinated due to a medical choice.

Handy bit of distraction/patriotism for the upcoming elections in Oz.

I think I am right in saying he obtained his medical exemption, but his visa was not in order. Seems like a legal issue to me and deportation would be instant for anyone else without a proper visa. Appeals are handy, will they be held before the tournament starts?

I neither know nor care about this man, but the law and regulations should apply to him as they do to everyone else. End of story.

how quickly we have forgotten about “protecting the elderly” and now its about people being pitted against people while governments spend millions and millions on measures that are mostly negligible or counterproductive and that we are all going to have to pay back.

See how casually you throw that in as an argument against the safety of vaccines?

And yet, the person who made the specific claim postulates that the increased death rate is possibly due to Covid 19 itself, or the overstretched health system caused by Covid, and furthermore he will be requiring all employees of his insurance company to be vaccinated on return to the office:

so the source is arguing exactly against what you’re using it for.

Personally, I’d let the dust settle and proper analysis be done on any such complex, wide-ranging statistics with so many variables before drawing any conclusions.

He's claiming a medical exemption, so I was going by that. I'm not even going to try and judge whether that claim is valid. By the noises made by the Serbian President here, Victoria may be disputing his claim:

So it appears that he's in a hotel, and not in a house, because the medical exemption claim is being disputed, and the visa wrangling is seen as secondary to that, at least in Serbia!

you can prove anything with facts and sources. what is the fun in that?

I don't understand why he still wants to play there. He clearly isn't wanted in the country. He knows his non presence devalues the competition.

He also presumably is still in possession of the actual Australian Open trophy, not the replica. He should never return it and not play in Australia again. Which again would be a hammerblow to the tournament, as he has won it the most times. Whenever they try to get a gathering of champions (which is regular in Tennis grand slams), he'll be absent. It will be a snub for a tournament that is by a mile the least prestigious of the 4 majors.

He'll likely be absent from the Frence Open too if Macron wins the election and goes full tyrant on non Vaccinated.

I think this will ultimately hurt Novak… he’ll have a lot less support from tennis fans / neutrals at competitions…Serbians yes as he’s a god there and can’t do wrong and isn’t according to any Serbian online or those camping or demonstrating outside his hotel…

Novak is on the doorstep of history, they're trying to stop him walking on in and making history. Currently its a tie

Federer 20

Novak 20

Nadal 20

Each on 20 Grand Slams, and Novak is the Austrailan expert .