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Best apprenticeship to do

  • 06-01-2022 8:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭


    Hi lads,

    Just wondering what do people think is the best trade to do along with being a farmer?

    Office job not for me want to do something with my hands. Love farming but could do with something else to generate more income.

    Thinking along the lines of electrian, carpenter, brick layer plasterer ect

    Thanks any advice appreciated



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Agri mechanics are hard got at moment, although some say not treated the best by main dealers ( dont know if thats true)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭enricoh




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don't think you'll go wrong with any trade lad, but I'd say electrician opens the most doors and opportunities and clean tidy work



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    Dry stone wall repair / building ?

    Plenty of them falling down around farms and public areas



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Was talking to a local Carpenter today, he said he has to keep his phone turned off most of the time because he hasn’t time to answer all the calls looking for him to do jobs. He has turned down roofing several new houses lately because he can’t get anyone to help him. He could name his price to work in Dublin but has had his fill of that crack. All the young lads want to be electricians now he reckons, seems to be plenty of them about.

    He said it’s impossible to get anyone to build blocks now, easier ways of making money i suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    If I was going back I'd be looking at an electrical or instrumentation apprentice.And get a nice handy job in a pharma factory or the like.

    Have yet to meet a brickie or plasterer in his 50s who's body isn't partially wrecked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I'd say all of them judging by any farmer I know. If you're creative and a lateral thinker I'd go with carpentry or mechanic... assuming modern mechanic apprenticeship training will include electrics as well as traditional ICE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Lift Engineer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Hair stylist. Saloon at home... great gossip, fantastic magazines and you'll be the best dressed farmer. Those shoes!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Who2


    It doesn’t matter what trade you do at the moment there’s that many opportunities in construction but surely you have some leanings in one way or another towards one over the other. If you are going self employed, carpentry is probably one of the dearest to get into tools wise, electrical seems to have the most young lads entering it. Block laying or plastering are probably the cheapest in and you can make decent coin . Whatever you pick think of the weather, your back and whether you want to be on sites or in drinking tea with an 80 year old while your fixing a leaky cistern. What part of the country are you in?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    I always thought mechanic was one of the worse trades - pay is poor enough, and it’s cold, uncomfortable work…

    I think any of the trades would be a good option.

    I’d say go for the one that appeals most to you…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Yeah. I agree, they're always needed but never go through a boom, even if there's a shortage of them they still get paid regular pay.

    I just thought it would be really useful on a farm... fixing stuff, buying broken machinery and fixing it (properly). I sort of misread the OP and thought he meant which skill would be most useful on the farm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    Was going to say this, the money is crazy as they're as scarce as hens teeth, if I had my time again I do that or plumbing. I spent 15 years blocklaying and picked up plastering with it from working with my brother, I wouldn't be the best plasterer but I'd be well able to put it on and finish small jobs, it stood to me over the years with work but plastering and blocks are wicked hard on the body, so plumbing or lift engineer would get my vote, at 25 you think you're invincible, at 50 you're hobbling around going for scans on hips and shoulders, I'm driving a lorry now and to be honest it's no easier than a trade



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,091 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Bit limiting for a farmer though? Lots of travel unless close to a major source of work.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    Is there a framework for apprenticeships ? How would a young person go about getting an apprenticeship? in any trade ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Same as that - young lads here will do spark or maybe plumber and after that nothing! Brickies will be going to work in a Ferrari in 10 or 20 years time!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭martinnn1997


    Tbh I'm nor sure if I would be too good of a mechanic



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭martinnn1997





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭martinnn1997


    Block laying very hard on the body all right I suppose



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭martinnn1997





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭martinnn1997




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    And they’ll be coming home with a Zimmer frame!!!!

    listen (or look at) the older fellas that have done it and you’ll see for yourself.

    electrician or plumbing work will generally keep you close enough to home (& farm) and there’s always nixers and there’s inside work for wet days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    Id recommend a plumbing apprentichip. Plumbers are scarce. And will always be needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Gudstock


    All of the construction trades are in demand.

    Most young lads going for electrician, its defo the cleanest, driest and lots of doors open to work in pharma and instrumentation.

    Blocklayers and plasters cannot be got, its a boom, they can name their price. Aging profile of the guys at it, no-one young fancies getting into it. Definitely hard on the body. Liklihood of a long boom for these guys. Its a trade where the expected output might have to reduce to make it easier pn the body but the actual price paid keep increasing as they're now so rare.

    Plumbing another great trade, always in demand, always repair and maintenance work available.

    Can't go wrong with carpentry either.

    If you're within a reasonable commute to the city there's a never-ending requirement for trades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Reading all the comments has me nearly leasing out the place and heading off to the big smoke, would someone past 50 still cut it☺️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Would an auto electrician be in demand for the maintenance of Electric Vehicles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Electrican, instrumentation, plumber, refrigeration, would be my advice and are licenced , always Maintainance work with those trades, a lot of the other trades are dependant on the boom/bust cycle, I'm a carpenter/cabinetmaker and I enjoy it, but a properly fitted door or wood trim will last a lifetime, with no callback for maintenance .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Aravo


    Blocklayers are being phased out on big sites as they are too unionised and things coming in prefabricated and lifted into place. One off house builds they are flying it. Blocklaying and plastering are tough on the body.

    Any trade will trump farming in terms of what you will make money wise.

    If I were choosing a trade I would choose the one which interests me the most. Maybe ask a few for some work and that would likely assist.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Dunedin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,175 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    I did a sparks apprenticeship after college when the recession hit but never finished my time. Loved it. If going for sparks make sure its commercial



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Jd310


    Shuttering carpenter/concrete finisher definitely a big one nowadays, not to be got and can name their price. Either that or blocklaying if I was to do a trade myself.

    Digger drivers in big demand now too if it was something that interested you, I hear of €30/hour available in the capital!



  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mechanic...always plenty work,but theres no easy money in it



    Id do instrumentation/refrigeration,these will be massive in future as will eventually come to include the repair/maintenance of air-water heating in houses..or else the re-wiring of electric motors


    An utter lack of plasterers too,only like 6 or something registered this year (i was talking to one of lecturers for phase 2,over xmas)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Shuttering is ok in nice weather, working with wet timber and rebar on a morning like this is no fun, and most concreting subbies are the thickest yolks you could work for.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    Instrumentation would be my pick. I did it and I'm in instrument commissioning for a long time since. Easy job and the money is good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    I supose it depends what skill sets you have all ready, you could plod along with the rest of them and do construction related trades, but if you need to get the heart racing and a bit of excitement , you could become a paramedic, have a relative at it, he loves it, love the shift work, never boring and the shift fly by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    I was coming on to give the same list as yourself . I am a plumber by trade originally and did a related degree and progressed to consulting engineering.

    What i would say though its one thing completing the apprenticeship , its another story to become really excellent at your trade. If you become one of the best in any trade you will be snapped up for opportunities in the future. If plumbing or refrigeration, learn everything you can about heat pumps, maintenance and repair because there is a massive shortfall in that area now and its only growing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,685 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Yeah do something you’ve an interesting in. Electrician is a good trade but can be very monotonous depending on the line you go down.

    The building trades are tough on the body. Roofing a house is grand for a couple of weeks in the year when it’s not too hot or not too wet. A mechanic is a thankless trade if you are working for someone else. Tractor mechanic even more so.

    I’d recommend a trade that could take you into maintenance in the future if you wanted to go down that road. Fitter, electrical, calibration or plumbing. Also if you could hack it a teacher it is the ideal job to go with farming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭Easten


    An apprenticeship is great, you are getting paid while you learn. The only problem is every leaving cert student out there would give their right arm for one. The reality is most young fellas can't get into one, they are all very closed shops to outsiders so unless you know someone you are heading to college.

    Son of mine got into an Electrical engineering apprenticeship specialising in Robotics and control about 8 years ago, at the time the company only looked at students with straight A's in honours Maths, physics and applied Maths and even then they had there own set of interviews to weed out those on the spectrum. same young fella couldn't get a look in to do any apprenticeship locally.

    It would be easier to get into the wet trades (plastering, blockwork, stone mason, tiler), but avoid blocklaying if possible as too many surfs get on the ryanair and get off in Dublin airport as a blocklayer. Plus it will wreck your back in 10 years. Plastering would be the best of them as you have a good bit of inside work.

    Carpentry is ok, but doesn't pay that well unless you go contracting, too many carpenters about, plus it suffers from the surfs with questionable training too. I've seen skilled labourers who would be good at pipelaying or finishing concrete been paid more money.

    Plumbing is a good trade, its easy plus most of the work is like putting together lego these days. Problem is it's another closed shop to the outsider.

    If you are determined you'll find a way in, be it taking a job labouring on a site until you get to know someone willing to take you on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    Chances are if you are on the buildings you’ll be travelling to Dublin anyways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 654 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    Ah you must have been with a few of the lads I did time with. Nothing like flaking the bundles of rebar on a frosty morning with a sledge to try to break them apart.

    OP try to get going with a builder for a while or for the summer if you're still in school. A lad that is at one-off housing or building a few houses will likely be doing alot of the different trades themselves and you might get an idea of what you like. IMO avoid all wet trades or anything to do with concrete. Alot of it is heavy work and even though the pay might be good how many lads do you see blocklaying or plastering into their late 50s or 60s?

    Chippies can't be got around here at the moment, have been approached by 4 different lads in the last 6 months seeing if I'll go back at it (I never did my trade just years of experience) because they can't get anyone. It's all nice on a fine summers day but a different story when you're rained off for most of a week in November.

    Do whatever interests you and it will only be half the work of something you don't like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Purecuntish


    I would go for plumbing and ensure you become RGI registered, there is a never ending amount of work all year round servicing/fitting boilers and it is generally indoor clean work. Like other trades if you are self employed you can name your price. Friend of mine is registered and is generally on the way home by 2pm everyday with his money made. I served my time as an electrician which was great, it also opened further opportunities, i returned to college in 2015, the course i studied was targeted at Plumbing & Electrical trades men. I'm now qualified and working in a much handier office job earning a lot more money than i ever could of working on the tools. Best of luck with whatever you choose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    Any of them are paying well now. One thing I will say though is that every plasterer I know is crippled from it young and old. Puts an awful lot of pressure on the joints. Wouldn't be overly struck on mechanics, costs an awful lot to get kitted out for it if you want to go self employed down the road and the rates in garages are nothing special. Tractors and cars are getting more specialised all the time too. Most important thing I'd say though is that you like doing whatever trade you pick. I don't think I'd have lasted a week as an electrician but wouldn't have minded blockwork or carpentry but everyone is different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭JohnChadwick


    Solar Panel and heat pump installer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,334 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Motorway constuction 2000 - 2008 gave lads a great break around here, they were basically hired if they were prepared to sit in a diggerr for 12 -14 hr shift, there was weeks of rough work to train them, and a lot of of them now are sought after and on great money

    They're sitting now in a nice warm cab and outa the muck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Welding and pipe fitting is another good trade, especially if you are at the higher end of it, where it's licenced



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    I think you propably could get easier then mechanic/electrician/any building .What about refrigeration seems basic enough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    What exactly do you do and what kinda companies do instrument trades people work for?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    Anything that is automated has instrumentation in the process somewhere. Well, we come along and make sure the instrumentation is got up and running. That instrumentation could be a flowmeter measuring the amount of fluid dispensed into a vial of vaccine to a vibration sensor on a GE gas turbine that is not too far away from what is on the wing of an airplane.

    The company's vary depending on the industry. Offshore oil and gas is where I spent most of my time but recently pharma is the new kid on the block. And the newborn is battery plants.



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