Tesla Model Y

Did anyone else also think he could have easily made it round that mini-roundabout without having to do a 3 point turn? Mind 11.8m is not a great turning circle for a (predominantly) RWD car. For comparison the Hyundai Ioniq 5 has 10.6m, the VW ID.4 has 10.2m

Mind about 12m seems the norm for a typical similar size ICE SUV (which are mostly FWD), so I don't know how your man even noticed / perceived the turning circle was "big", maybe the research time was struggling to find any bad points 😂

Seems to be a clear feeling on majority of reviews that the suspension is jarry on slower uneven roads like ours/UK. I’ve a car with similar suspension and tbh it’s not ideal for a family car esp on city streets and manhole covers. perhaps they’re using the M3 suspension and adapting it to the increased weight.

Tesla sold 770 M3’s in 2021 (VW sold nearly 4 times that in EVs, for comparison), so almost certainly the more expensive MY will be far lower sales.

most Tesla buyers want ‘a Tesla’, so the M3 ticks that box, and indeed the cheapest base model now seems to be the pick of the bunch, whereas the MY is a family car and it’s market will be smaller to begin with, never mind it being more expensive.

a few hundred sales at most in the first year I’d say, as long time queuers get their cars, and tail off slowly from there

By all accounts, when you look at the EV choices in the midsize family 5-seater suv market, the Y is arriving both late and expensive to these shores. Range is not as important here anymore as range anxiety fears are vastly overblown, so it means it’ll be a low volume niche car.

it could be an advantage to buyers though, as they will be rare in the 2nd hand market for sure (that hasn’t helped the model X, but it’s a different beats I suppose).

I was looking at the 192 market for the M3, and they’ve barely depreciated at all, to the point that it makes more sense to buy a new one and just wait for delivery.

I tend to agree.

I’ve had mSport suspension cars for exactly 10 years now, and the slow-bump roll is poor, versus being ok at speed - but recently I’ve decided our mk8 golf has the ride of a rolls Royce by comparison

Theres too much criticism of the Y suspension for it not to be a real issue.

I remember that the Peugeot e208 got heavily criticised for a harsh ride at international launch.

But Peugeot fixed it at some point prior to RHD production.

Very early Model 3s also got criticised by some for ridiculously firm ride.

Let's see if Tesla make changes to Model Y

It’s just a byproduct of the pace - you can’t have an M3 doing 4-5sec 0-100 pace and have it go round corners like a boat.

now imagine the higher ride height of the Y and for sure the ride needs to be even tighter

Berlin is not open yet as the plant is not yet finished and the required approvals have not yet been obtained. It needs to be finished, not to Elon's spec, but to the level approved by the authorities.

I put a deposit(albeit €100) for the Model Y at the beginning of December with a 3rd quarter estimated delivery date. We test drove the 3 like Mad_maxx, with a view to a test drive on the Y in March. I nearly have the Mrs onboard too. With fuel prices, road tax only going one way and diesel not really practical around town it made sense for our situation. We've 2 kids and another on the way(groan). I ordered the Performance Pack. Black with white interior. Also, with a place in the west of Ireland it kinda made sense. Having stumbled upon this thread, I'm now having second thoughts. Damn you Boards!

Both😂 . On a serious note the suspension issues. I suppose I'll wait for the test drive.

Yeah, I agree with your above sentiments mad_maxx. We have tested a couple of others but found we like the Y to sit into etc and enjoyed the drive of the 3. We are coming from a Range Rover Sport so trying to get used to the new seating position is the only drawback from what I can see. I've a couple of classic's so happy to do my bit for the environment. Just looked at the email, and I put the deposit down on the 14th of December. Looking through my emails I missed one saying 'Prepare for Your Model Y Delivery' so maybe you're right! Hopefully I'll get the chance to Test Drive prior to purchase.