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24-12-2021 8:01am

Latest update.

53% of hospitalisations, 54% of people in ICU with Covid, come from 6% of our population. Bravo to these brave people, they know best.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiT2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9uZXdzLzIwMjEvMTIyMi8xMjY4MjUxLWhzZS1jb3ZpZC1icmllZmluZy10aGluZ3Mtd2UtbGVhcm5lZC_SAR9odHRwczovL2FtcC5ydGUuaWUvYW1wLzEyNjgyNTEv?hl=en-IE&gl=IE&ceid=IE%3Aen

crisco10 · 24-12-2021 8:42am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118368733#Comment_118368733

But but..don't you see, 46% of the ICU are vaccinated sheeple. Ergo, vaccines don't work.

astrofool · 24-12-2021 11:22am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118368733#Comment_118368733

On the other thread the penny is dropping about other hospital services having to be curtailed due to COVID patients, but mostly in a pearl clutching way.

Hopefully omicron will reduce the pressure.

Frank Grimes · 24-12-2021 11:44am

In case this is of any use to anyone, Citywest are taking walk-ins today for boosters for those over 40. I was told they're closing at lunch time but not a specific time.

ddarcy · 24-12-2021 9:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118368733#Comment_118368733

Yeah on average 1 in 10 can’t (not don’t want to) get a vaccine. Throw in the 2 different types and in reality 95% taking it is the max you’ll ever get. Remember if you get the vaccine it’s to help those 5-10% who can’t get it.

congrats you’ve been brainwashed on the problem.

The problem has and always has been the mismanagement of the HSE. If we want to start fixing things then Reid needs to go, NPHET needs to go along with a complete restructuring of the HSE. But eliminating tens of thousands of public servants who are beyond useless will never happen. We need to blame others to cover.

24-12-2021 9:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118370948#Comment_118370948

Just in case I am brainwashed ddarcy, why don’t you tell us why 10% can’t get the vaccine. Maybe after that you can explain why if 94% of the population are vaccinated, 40% of those who “can’t” , have now taken the vaccine.

ddarcy · 24-12-2021 10:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118371060#Comment_118371060

In general 1 in 10 cannot for a given vaccine. Lots of reasons for this, allergies, drug interactions, etc. Case in point 2% of people are allergic to eggs. That knocks you off both types of vaccines. There are 1% of people allergic to latex, same thing off both vaccines (I know this didn’t add to 3% as there will be some with both allergies). 2% of people have anaphylaxis reactions to vaccines, again this eliminates them from both. So straight away, without looking at any other reasons to get it, I’ve taken out 4-5% of the population.

i did say there were 2 types of vaccines, so this does amount for a higher figure. But you didn’t want to read that.

again this is not an unvaccinated problem. Politicians exploiting this should be ashamed of themselves.

Now let’s assume everyone was vaccinated. The hospital numbers would come down by ~40% at best. That’s assuming everyone in iCU is there for Covid and Covid only.

now would we still have a problem? Yes we would. It’s that inconvenient truth that is being ignored. NPHET , the HSE and Donnelly would still be worried by the high amounts in iCU and hospitals. But then they would have put the blame where it should be put, on them.

odyssey06 · 24-12-2021 10:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118371209#Comment_118371209

Covid vaccines dont contain egg or latex.

"Neither the Pfizer/BioNTech, AstraZeneca, Moderna or Janssen COVID-19 vaccine contain any egg proteins and none of the vaccines are contraindicated in egg allergy."

"Neither the Pfizer/BioNTech, AstraZeneca, Moderna or Janssen COVID-19 vaccine vial contains latex."

Your misinformation claims about vaccines are debunked below.

Have you got any real supported data on how many people are medically advised to avoid covid vaccines? Cos you appear to be making this **** up.

https://www.anaphylaxis.org.uk/covid-19-advice/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-and-allergies/

24-12-2021 11:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118371209#Comment_118371209

Good God, and you called me brainwashed.

ddarcy · 24-12-2021 11:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118371242#Comment_118371242

Look up what anaphylaxis means and get back to me. I gave brief examples of other vaccines, go through each ingredient and you’ll get in and around 10%, which is the expected value.

ill help

https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/immunisation/hcpinfo/covid19vaccineinfo4hps/covidchecklistpm.pdf

(Edit) sorry this wasn’t meant for odyssey 06. (Edit)

Honestly you’re part of the problem. Not everyone can get it and you are most definitely brainwashed if you think so. The government should be ecstatic that 90%+ have gotten it.

if this was the us where 60% got it then I’d definitely see the point. definitely some nut jobs there.

this is 100% a problem with the mismanagement of the health system. I mean we can’t blame the people responsible like the person who set it up (M Martin), the person who was health minister and gave it to an incompetent to run (Varadker) or the plumber who runs the show (Reid). Donnelly isn’t helping himself either, but when numbers 1 and 2 oversaw the creation and running of the shítshow, you’d wonder how he’s being gagged.

odyssey06 · 24-12-2021 11:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118371272#Comment_118371272

Get back to us when you can stand over the claims you are making about vaccines. After your earlier misinformation about egg and latex allergy your claims about vaccines figures have zero credibility without that.

sporina · 30-12-2021 2:52pm

got my booster yesterday - no side effects - (1st vaccine I got was Astrazenaca - got Pfizer booster) strange? my understanding is that if you get side effects it means its working.. ie: your body is reacting to the virus/vaccine and thus you will produce antibodies which will help fight infection?

Itssoeasy · 30-12-2021 4:42pm

I said it in the other thread but got my booster in cork city hall this morning which was Moderna after I got two Pfizer doses earlier in the year and after few hours I feel grand and hopefully it stays that way.

cython · 30-12-2021 5:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118391566#Comment_118391566

I was in your position yesterday, felt fine going to bed (just a bit tender at the injection site) but got chills and some muscle pains during the night and woke up with a headache and nausea this morning. Paracetamol and some more sleep (didn't get much overnight) helped, but in hindsight I wish I'd taken the paracetamol going to bed.

Obviously your experience may differ, but might be no harm to take a small dose as a precaution when going to bed. I also got Pfizer initial course with Moderna booster, and the latter hit harder than either dose of the former.

Itssoeasy · 30-12-2021 5:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118391692#Comment_118391692

Well yeah I took some when I came home because many of my family who got their booster swore by taking some after I got it so hopefully that will have the desired effect. Well due to an issue with my neck I have a headache on and off so I probably wouldn’t know the difference. I do plan to take some tonight so fingers crossed I prevents any possible issues tomorrow.

colly10 · 30-12-2021 9:25pm

Anyone know if the yellow cards they hand out are ok for travel to countries that require the booster like France or Austria (in the case you previously got Janssen) ?

sporina · 30-12-2021 10:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118368759#Comment_118368759

your not v good at maths are ya.. ekk

crisco10 · 30-12-2021 11:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118393366#Comment_118393366

Edit: didn't mean post. Want to delete

30-12-2021 11:40pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118393624#Comment_118393624

Don’t worry, we know what you meant. Sporina just needs to adjust his/her sarcasm antennae.

Itssoeasy · 31-12-2021 7:53am

As I’ve said I felt grand after the booster yesterday and took ibuprofen several times yesterday and made a point to sleep on my right side during the night but must have turned to my left and Jesus h Christ that hurt. Thankfully it’s just my arm but it wasn’t that sore the first two times. Hopefully that’s all that’s at me today.

Vicxas · 31-12-2021 8:47am

Got my Moderna booster yesterday morning (had Pfizer 2 dose last year) and it is kicking my ass. Spiked a temperature during the night and my skin is sore. Hoping its gone by soon as this is awful.

Itssoeasy · 31-12-2021 9:24am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394678#Comment_118394678

Well I had no temperature but as I said earlier where it’s sore it’s very sore which is around where I got the injection. It seems to have eased now for me but yeah didn’t have that pain from my arm the first two times.

nialler1978 · 31-12-2021 9:34am

My wife got her booster two days before Christmas Day, pretty much put her out of action for the whole of Xmas. It wasn’t any kind of side effect sickness some people report but intense pain which spread throughout her back and most of her upper torso. She was bed ridden for 3 days. Again, she had no issues with the first two, just a small amount of pain around the injection area.

SusanC10 · 31-12-2021 10:04am

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/30/us/politics/boosters-12-15-year-olds-omicron.html

Any sign of this here or in wider EU ?

Itssoeasy · 31-12-2021 10:18am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394725#Comment_118394725

So it was a three day general shiteness then ?

nialler1978 · 31-12-2021 10:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394817#Comment_118394817

More like 5, she was in bed for 3 with back pain and was up and about after that but in a lot of discomfort. Couldn’t lift her arm. She’s firmly on the side of not getting another one after the experience.

Itssoeasy · 31-12-2021 10:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118394826#Comment_118394826

Christ that sounds like zero craic. I can lift my arm alright it’s just very sore when I touch it off something which is why I woke up earlier because I lay on it. I can understand why she’d more than hesitant to get another one.

31-12-2021 10:41am

Can confirm the MVC's are booster vaccinating walk in j&j people under 30 today at kilanerin (between Gorey and Arklow)

Pfizer

Itssoeasy · 31-12-2021 1:05pm

Im sure this has been said already or some version of it, but don’t go for a three mile walk that includes hills. Jesus h Christ I’m sore now and I was feeling grand when I woke up.

kirk. · 31-12-2021 10:49pm

Are boosters affecting employment anytime soon ?

I haven't been able to get to it yet

cython · 31-12-2021 10:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118398085#Comment_118398085

I'm reasonably sure employers can't discriminate based on vaccination status, so neither primary course nor booster should affect that.

However, with this evening's news, unless you're delayed due to recent infection, you should be able to get your booster easily now, as so far as I can see, the extension to 16+ age group is heavily driven by undersubscription among those already eligible.

Shooter_galway · 01-01-2022 6:00pm

Anyone know what story is with updated covid cert after booster?

nialler1978 · 01-01-2022 11:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118401560#Comment_118401560

I doubt there will be any update until it’s been offered to and is readily available to absolutely everyone, it would be impossible to deny services or entry to those that haven’t had the opportunity to be boosted…so who knows when it will be updated. Few months time, at a guess.

redt0m · 05-01-2022 11:45am

Got a text from the HSE saying an appointment has now been arranged for a booster, then another text about 3 hours later saying that appointment was now cancelled. No other word since. This happen anyone else?

LeeroyJ. · 06-01-2022 9:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118401560#Comment_118401560

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1479001238297460738

06-01-2022 11:10am

A few comments down was a post from the MM a few months ago saying the passes were only for international travel, and would not be used internally due to civil liberties issues..

Death by a thousand cuts..

We slide into tyranny slowly..

corkie · 06-01-2022 4:54pm

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1479116953436373003?t=8rpJCJg5j_ihii5LeqbwWQ&s=19

Hippodrome Song Owl · 06-01-2022 8:09pm

Last time people vaccinated by gp received cert in the post - mostly the elderly at that time. I assume, having been boosted by gp also, they will again receive updated cert in post? Is there a time frame for this? My mother needs it for travel if 9 months will be the validity of original cert.

Also, I received cert by email following vaccination in Citywest last time. I received my booster from a random gp surgery (literally happened to be passing and they had a sign outside), with no vaccine card with batch number even given as proof. Should I expect the updated cert to be sent by email or post now??

DrSpongeBobz · 06-01-2022 10:29pm

I got the Pfizer booster, this is my third Pfizer injection. I thought the booster was meant to be a different version?

odyssey06 · 06-01-2022 10:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118430010#Comment_118430010

No it doesnt have to be different. In theory it may be more beneficial to have a mix but many people who got pfizer originally preferred a known entity. Anecdotally moderna side effects seem to be worse (still fleeting).

Most of the boosters done at mvcs were done with moderna purely because we have a huge stock of it that needs to be used.

astrofool · 06-01-2022 11:48pm

We may not see an Omicron specific vaccine at all (similar to Delta) if boosters hold up and Omicron peaks and troughs quickly.

China trying to get mRNA out the door quickly due to loss of efficacy in the deactivated virus vaccine they've been using, reading between the lines, seems to be an issue trying to get a strong immune response to the whole virus versus mRNA which can specifically generate a very strong response against the spike protein, wonder if Valneva are seeing the same thing (and may explain their long delays and cancelled orders):

China rushes to develop an mRNA vaccine as doubts grow over local jabs | Financial Times (ft.com)

Lumen · 07-01-2022 6:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118430574#Comment_118430574

It could be the case that a long lasting high efficacy (against infection) vaccine is impossible, and we're left with various vaccines that all have similar long duration protection against severe disease but different short term antibody responses.

In that case periodically tweaked mRNA vaccines might retain their crown. They certainly seem to have increased in popularity with public procurers throughout the pandemic, despite more burdensome logistics.

There is a strong contrast between mRNA popularity amongst the medically qualified vs antipathy from random internet cranks. Maybe that's just contrarianism; if the government recommended the red pill those people would find a reason to advocate for the blue.

LeeroyJ. · 07-01-2022 10:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427907#Comment_118427907

Seen a lot of people on Twitter already received it. Nothing here yet.

el Fenomeno · 07-01-2022 6:25pm

I got my booster at my local pharmacy yesterday. Booster was Pfizer, as was my initial vaccination back in August. My updated cert already arrived today.

Aside from that, I'm in the horrors today. Fever, chills, headache, nausea, stiffness, fatigue.... seem to have got the full bundle of non-severe side effects. Feels like as bad a hangover as I've ever had and have been in bed all day as a result. It's not nice, and certainly a step or two up from what I thought would be a mild head cold-like experience.

I won't be going near another booster unless I have no choice.

Purple Mountain · 07-01-2022 6:31pm

Got my booster yesterday. Moderna. First 2 were Pfizer.

On all three, I had nearly a day of being out of my head 'floating' feeling.

I would actually say the booster was much worse for this feeling but didn't last the full 24 hours.

Last night, I felt like I drank a whole bottle of wine and was in a stupor.

Not a nice experience.

odyssey06 · 07-01-2022 6:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118434881#Comment_118434881

It's strange, I had Pfizer x 3, with the side effects lessening with each dose. First one hit me like your booster impact description.

I wonder what it signifies.

Purple Mountain · 07-01-2022 8:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118435011#Comment_118435011

I can't believe people buy illegal drugs to voluntarily feel like this! Eh, no thanks!

corkie · 08-01-2022 6:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118427907#Comment_118427907

Just got my updated Cert emailed to me at 16:25, was booster-ed in City Hall, Cork on 11/12/2021 and my surname starts with 'O'.

Handy site if anyone wants to store the pass on phone.

https://covid19passbook.netlify.app/

I use : - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.walletpasses.android

If someone who is eligible has not received a cert by next Thursday, they will be able to get one through the government website, gov.ie.

Link

Clickclickboom · 08-01-2022 11:48pm

Hi y'all,

I am completely lost and don't know what to do with the booster. I had my 2nd dose in August and I am strongly hesitating to have the booster now or to wait longer.

The following is indicated on the HSE website :

"An mRNA COVID-19 vaccine booster dose has been:

- recommended by the National Immunisation Advisory Committee (NIAC) in Ireland in people aged 16 and over 3 months after finishing a course of COVID-19 vaccines

-licensed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) in people aged 18 and over 6 months after finishing a course of COVID-19 vaccine"

Hence the original advice was to wait 6 months between the 2nd dose and the booster.

Has anyone on this sub actually had the booster earlier ? I am concerned I will get the booster too "soon" after my 2nd dose and that it can be harmful to people.

Whocanibe · 09-01-2022 1:42am

^^^^^^

I think the time between vaccines was changed from 6months to 3mths. I was very nervous about getting a third one, but it was fine, and I got it after 3mths. Problem is mine was an extra shot, and I'm expecting to be called for a booster any day now!

I'm even more nervous about this one,it will be 4 in less than a year,and I can't decide what to do!

My head is wrecked with it all.

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