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  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    The handiest I think would have to be the tiling, there's courses that will teach you the basics and after that it's practice x 3. Unless you run into a couple awful contrary jobs starting off you'd get into it handy enough with a few of small jobs



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    The handiest I think would have to be the tiling

    Handiest??

    I'd have to disagree. Tiling is a trade that can't be thought. It's an art that people are either good at or not.

    A tiler is an artist.

    If some spends a thousand on tiles for a bathroom and they are not laid perfect the tiler is in for a hard time



  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Not particularly

    A poor blocklayer is hidden by a plaster, a poor plasterer is hidden by a painter.

    The tiler has no hiding place

    You have to love tiling to do it as a job.

    It doesn't need qualifications per say, but it's far from the easiest trade



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Electrician all the way. Much cleaner than Plummer. You will still be working late in life in comparison to block laying etc and you are inside more than often.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16 The middle inch


    I would suggest you have a look at an aircraft maintenance apprenticeship. I work in this area myself, but while I didn't do an apprenticeship, I have seen a lot of people do very well having completed an apprenticeship and having the right attitude and work ethic. The big benefit of such an apprenticeship is it can give many different opportunities, and options to suit what people are looking for. For example, I know lads and girls who have gone into heavy maintenance, such as AAG is Shannon or Dublin Aerospace (where an aircraft is taken out of service for a number of weeks) working in line maintenance (ongoing servicing and troubleshooting of in service aircraft), working with planes being built (auch as in Airbus in Hamburg or Toulouse), in engines inspection or maintenance companies, into technical departments of airlines or aircraft leasing companies and into the Irish Aviation Authority. But as its a regulated industry with a strong process driven focus, the pharma and medical devices industry recruit many aerospace professionals too. It also allows lads the opportunity to travel and work abroad for a bit if they want. The earning capacity is very strong for people with ambition. I know a few lads who were earning in the high 50s + pension +health insurance + staff travel (very cheap flughts) before overtime within a year of finishing their apprenticeships a few years back. These lads would have worked hard to get a certifying license very quickly, but that is something that you do at your own pace. Plenty people with engineering, science and business degrees would be working a long time after college before they were on them sort of wages. Some mightn't want to go down the certifying/licensed engineer route, earn a bit less but still have a lifestyle that allows them plenty time to run the farm. I have met quite a few over the years around Clare, Galway, Tipperary, Cavan, Meath, Westmeath etc who work shifts and can manage to run a farm without having to work every minuteof the day. Obviously where you are located would be a consideration, and in the current climate mightn't seem like the best industry to go into, but good aircraft engineers are always in demand



  • Registered Users Posts: 914 ✭✭✭The Nutty M


    You can go to England and do a few weeks course and become a domestic electrician. If you were that way inclined.



    England is a bit different to Ireland in how easy it is to become a registered electrician.



  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭JohnChadwick


    What about exploiting the growing wellness industry. Soft enough job that let's you preserve much needed energy for the real work of agriculture.

    However, first and foremost you'd have to make it known you're predominantly a farmer - in case anyone thinks you're a total fruitcake.

    Meanwhile the wellness business starts bringing in the big bucks for you. Keeping things low key, you put up a tams granted shed which includes a nice space for you're work as a reiki healer or whatever.

    Then you expand. Next thing you're importing hot tubs, turning round feeders into coffee pods, hiring students to manage your instagram page.

    You become a guru in the industry. You dominate the market with plasterers and blocklayers from far and wide coming to avail of rejuvenation treatments.

    You don't stop. You want more. You reach the pinnacle when Ear to the Ground do a segment on your business.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,220 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Electrician.

    You'll never be short of work, especially commercial which can be far more profitable than domestic work. Can always specialise in something like renewables, industrial installation. Can also branch into electrical engineering if you'd like and move towards something with a defined career path.

    Id also pick something like welding. Theres always big money on large infrastructure projects for welders, especially if you get certified.

    Carpenters are flat out but i don't think the money is there. People are leaving the mechanic trade in droves, again poor money.

    A shortage in a trade doesn't mean opportunity. It could be that people are leaving for a reason.

    I don't know much about plumbing, so can't comment.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    I'd have to disagree, Have done quite a bit of tiling with results that were perfectly acceptable and I'm far from an artist.

    A level floor and a tile leveling system is half the battle. Unless you're talking about herringbone or the likes in very awkwardly shaped rooms then it's fairly straightforward.A laser is a godsend



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    We can agree to disagree.

    Up a bathroom wall with 1m x 0.5m tiles and only 1mm groutlines is where acceptable gets hard.

    The lady of house picks the tiles unfortunately

    I've attempted lots of complicated things with great success, but not tiling, it is one of the ones that's not something someone should do without a natural talent for the job.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    Absolutely.

    Many tilers wouldn't go below standard spacing which is 2mm for walls and 3mm for floors. 1mm would be extremely difficult to keep running right and wouldn't allow the tolerance needed for stress relief.


    Edit: Many tilers may be a stretch, I do know 2 or 3 that wouldn't though



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Someone mentioned it already. Servicing gas boilers. RGI registered obviously. Repeat work each year. Once you keep the customers happy they’ll be slow to hire someone else.

    Also, there’s a massive shortage of tilers in the country. Worth a shot to see if you’d a liking for it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Know 4 lads who have recently (Last two years) lost their jobs in this industry. Only advantage of it is it could lead you into another industry if you are qualified.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    I’ve been looking for a while fir a short plastering course but can’t find anything. In full time job which I won’t be giving up any time soon but always had an interest in plastering from my younger days on sites.

    At the minute I’d plaster an auld wall out the back that no one would see but I’d like to do an odd one at the front that I wouldn’t have to hide.

    ideally I’d like a short 3-4 day course or something like that. There was one advertised for 4 days through one of the ETB bodies but they didn’t have numbers for it so not running it.


    any ideas?



  • Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭tommybrees


    Yeah there doesn't seem to be anything solid online like an evening course or weekend from eat I see.

    Isn't that what Fas used to be?? Whatever happened that?

    It's a shame when construction Is booming and talking to tradies or management they all say the same thing that lads cant be got.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,580 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I would put sparks at the top of the list, followed by plumbing.

    both provide the widest possible range of work opportunities from domestic and industrial work plus give access to industrial maintenance.

    tool making is a well paid trade but work is limited to more major urban areas which wouldn’t suit everyone

    agricultural mechanics might be in short supply but chat to the lads, it’s not well paid.

    brother did metal fabrication apprentice, he’s coded stainless fabrication now, earns reasonable enough money. He was offered work on the Intel site @ €38/he but turned it down



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I find it surprising that nobody has pointed out that farming involves hard physical work if not outright rooting and dragging.

    My advice as a carpenter who now does a different job along with farming is definitely NOT a physical trade where you come home with body already tired. That's madness.

    Any trade where you'll end up self-employed with employees is a no-no as it takes too much time outside of the basic 40 hrs to run, - time you need for your farm.

    Some good suggestions about boiler servicing, aircraft tech, heat pump installer, air conditioning, alarm systems, door access systems, smart metering installer, communications/Wi-Fi systems.

    That's your type of job.

    Generally stay away from the traditional site trades if you're trying to farm as well.

    Reasonably well paid, clean, body isn't wrecked at 55, plenty of time to farm.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,164 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I'd go for electrian all day. Can be tough pulling cables but once you're qualified, good money and plenty of work. Could branch into vehicle wiring or wiring for computer centres.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Yeah couldn’t agree more. Teacher is the best of all as I said before. Sit on your bum for the day then tare into it when you get home.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Lift Engineers are on a higher rate than Electricians.

    I am one and pulled in €85k last year, job security epically on the service side of the business. I have never been out of work in over 25 years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,521 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Electrician.

    Great base to branch off into a more specialist area in the future if you want, or great if you want to make loads of money house bashing on sites at the moment either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Know someone mentioned hairdressing ( partly in jest ? ) but a barber maybe ? Or if interested a chef. Both seem strange choices in a pandemic but not everyone is inclined towards construction



  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Still stihl waters 3


    A painter won't hide bad plastering, it actually does a good job of highlighting it



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Perhaps. But he has options of using matt paint which can help hide imperfections.

    My point was in response to tiling being the called the "handiest" trade. It couldn't be further from handier.

    The days of wide grout lines and small tiles are gone.

    I would put tiling up there as one the more skilled trades/professions, and from a physical point of view, either stooped over doing walls or crawling on your knees for days on end doing kitchen floors it's far from handy.

    There is a reason they can't be got. It's hard work.

    I'd advise someone to go painting, landscaping, fencing, plumbing, electrical etc before I would advise tiling is handy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    €85k 😞😞 dairy boys wouldn’t get out of bed for it.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Could you ask around local plasterers to see if you could knock around with them on a Saturday giving them a hand and in return they'd show you the skills of the trade? Otherwise, youtube or try find a course. Like these;


    There is going to be a lot of skills and knowledge lost over the next 10 years as older generations retire and youth don't enter certain niche trades. Would like to get into metal lathework but no courses around me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭enricoh


    A mate of mine (grade A chancer) decided to start tiling during the Celtic tiger. There was heaps of estates popping up beside us with dubs moving down that knew no one to do work- he decided to milk them!

    With the aid of yanks on YouTube he learnt the ropes, raising eyebrows in the builders providers talking about drywall etc.

    One day the owner had headed off to the big smoke and he decided to have a bath as it'd been a while! Happy out with the radio going who arrives upstairs only the owner- she had forgotten her laptop! Not one to get excited he took it in his stride- a true pro!

    The demise of the Celtic tiger saw him head to oz which was just as well as a few husband's n boyfriend's were after him for providing additional services to their missus's!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Lin2022


    apprenticeship.ie has a full list of available Construction apprenticeships.



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