Minimum Alcohol pricing to be signed into Law

Two women moaning to each other in front of me. Not exactly eavesdropping they were talking aloud.

One guy on phone to someone one talking about prices of a certain beer to someone going up.

Another woman turn to guy on phone said its madness.

Aldi is usually a quiet supermarket.

Not exactly a building site with noise. Now is it.

I was in for two minutes to buying a bottle of wine.

A long 2 minutes mind you cause I couldn't decide myself. Imagine what its like all day or across the whole country.

Why Iv to explain myself in detail. Do you want me to draw it in crayon for ya.

How can you not comprehend something that people buy in their weekly shop has doubled overnight and you think it's fine.

Bill's overall in this place have skyrocketed in the last few months.

Has definitely replaced Covid as the conversation topic around here, think most hadn’t realised the effect it would have on them instead of the boyos buying the 50c cans, lots of bus trips being organised and the lads with vans have never been so popular lol.

Look it believe what ya want to believe. I'm really fooked up of there is no proper discussion on these things without people resorting to calling people outright liars. That's what happened the two minutes I was in. Which if it sounds far fetched.

Not exactly sci fi now is it.

The bs I read on here about the whole country being raving alcoholics is amusing and being cheaper than water. Ffs ya couldn't make such shite.

If ya dont like people drinking alcohol

That's your problem. If youv have a family member affected by it I feel sorry for ya but that's still your problem .

Sort it out with counselling. Not forcing a massive price increase on a product that most people consume in moderation.

This will result in a lot more damage

That's me done here. I wont reply to stupid callouts.

Very odd, had a good skinfull of craft lager there recently and got a taxi into the ‘town’ offie to get re-enforcements.

On the way back unfortunately lost control and left about a quart of sour piss in the back seat.

Still feel bad about keeping the poor lass off the road

I would certainly be content if excise was increased instead of MUP. I would not be happy as I do not want MUP at all, but it is certainly a better alternative. But if MUP has to happen then I would prefer a combined VAT and excise hike. It would "help" more people, a wealthy alco drinking 100 bottles of whiskey will easily afford a 8-9 euro increase. If anybody is in favour of cost as a means of dissuading people then it should be done in a manner that effects people more fairly. Just like in some countries fines are based on a % of peoples income.

This "I'm alright Jack" attitude of many is disgusting, I want equal treatment even if I fare worse. I have said in other threads I would love to see alcohol made illegal (temporarily anyway), just like other recreational drugs, just to see the self righteous hypocritical anti-any-recreational-drug-but-mine have to suffer what others do for a change.

This almost 500 euro per year hike for low risk drinkers is a massive % of disposable income for many, if the same % chunk was taken from wealthy low risk drinkers it would never have been passed.

feck all savings as predicted. A look at sainsbury's website will tell you that anyway.

Most people are not concerned about a few euro unless the saving is literally at their fingertips.

Classic example is the Emo fuel garage in Johnstown - literally 3 minutes off the M8 at junction4. 10c a litre cheaper for diesel, yet its never rammed with cars the way the Junction 8 Circle K is. but that 3 minute detour would save €5/€6 off a standard fill and so few bother.

I'm in Portadown a few times a year. I still won't be stopping off at the asda drive by

Well i if was making light of what people post like you I'd call bs on your story too. But i ain't like you.

I dont dismiss people opinions as if there nothing.

An interesting thought experiment is: would MUP have made sense for tobacco? Only a small proportion of the extra price (VAT) going to the government, the rest going to retailers and producers of tobacco products. Purchasers of expensive cigars unaffected, consumers of shag or roll your own (?) tobacco most affected. People who consumed 'on sale' tobacco in 'coffee shops' unaffected.

So why does it make sense for alcohol...

In an earlier era I can imagine tesco lidl aldi selling cigarettes cheaper than elsewhere.

Were tesco aldi lidl wines rrp priced 5 - 7 euros massively discounted?

I don't think the McGargles base price was 2 euro before mup. It was normally cheaper to get in tesco when it was on sale, and then the double was normally 3 euro.

It was €1.98 since in lidl since I first started buying it.I saw it around €2.7 in Supervalue or Tesco (can't remember which one)

Trying to equate being against MUP with not caring about victims of drink driving is really utterly despicable.

Most likely? Right. In other words you dont have a clue whether they were bought above or below MUP.

But regardless you plough on without foundation ... and in that furrow we could continue and say the message of MUP is that if someone is a victim of drink driving from someone coming home from the pub or club is... I dont give a damn.