Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

Because people are claiming, among other things that the vaccines are dangerous and that they are part of a global plot to depopulate the planet.

If people have genuine concerns about the safety of the vaccines, they have not been expressing them here and are only repeating lies told by conspiracy theory and anti-vaxx outlets.

Lol. Sorry man, please not believing your conspiracy theories and pointing out that you are a liar does not make you an oppressed minority.

It's very silly to pretend that it does. It demonstrates both a complete ignorance of history as well as exposes one of the roots behind you dishonest belief: a persecution complex.

So are you saying there is zero educated debate taking place in this thread as well?

I'm of the opinion that if people have wild and unsubstantiated views on any topic that it should be aired in the most public place possible. That's surely the best way to make their arguments look stupid.

The more public a platform you give a fool, the more foolish he or she will look.

Ok, if we're going to be patronising, do you not understand that there actually is intelligent debate taking place on some of the pages of this thread that I believe should take place in a general Coronavirus section?

I'm assuming you've decided vaccines are safe and warranted for all ages, if not I apologise for an erroneous inference but I'm going to leave it at that.

For someone who said they haven’t read the thread you appear to have read it. New account/dormant account? Check. Concern over vaccine but not backing it up with substance? Check. We’ve seen this before and so the skeptic in me says that you’ve been here before, and you may not be what you initially try to portray. I’m happy to be corrected though through your future posts here.

It's because of posts like this and other replies that I tend not to bother with sites like this or Twitter anymore. The immediate suspicion of my motives coupled with incorrect inferences from my posts that shows you either didn't read it properly or you're just assuming I'm going to take an unsubstantiated stance.

I am concerned over the vaccine but my OP related to the section where this is taking place on the basis that there's already a prejudice to the debate. There is plenty of educated and qualified discussion about the veracity or safety of vaccines for kids. I never said they were unsafe or unwarranted. I simply said I wasn't convinced yet, yet, but I'm disappointed to see this thread under the heading Conspiracy Theories.

I returned to Boards at a time when Twitter & YouTube seem to dislike educated debate by banning views that aren't necessarily that radical or conspiratorial but simply go against the narrative and this initial interaction on Boards hasn't inspired me with much confidence that anything more constructive will take place here.

If you read my post as an attack then you must have come into the thread in a defensive position which would be odd. I do hope you prove me wrong, but in the last month or so, you are the 3rd poster or so that came in with such a premise and then changed. It’s a MO used by conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers, and then they get annoyed when outed.

You have identified some good debate on this thread. There is so little debate in the thread because only one side engages that it has me convinced that you have read the thread unless you hit the jackpot of picking the one page out of 78 at the first attempt. Surely anyone of reason can see why suspicions arise. As already stated, please prove me wrong because genuine posters are great to discuss with.

Going to wrap this up now. I never said it was an attack. They're your words, not mine. Once again incorrect inferences as another poster did in relation to YouTube censorship (see below).

I'm not a conspiracy theorist or an anti vaxxer. I wasn't defensive coming on here, I merely posed a question about a thread about vaccine safety which I felt was already being judged by its place in conspiracy theories. I accept I could debate this elsewhere or start a new one but to be honest after this level of suspicion i.e. I'm anti-vax, I'm a conspiracy theorist, I'm disinclined to waste my time.

Fair enough, if you don’t want to have a discussion on a forum, then it’s the same as half the posters on this thread. It could have been good, but it’s not to be. You didn’t outline any concern that you had apart from maybe a certain cohort doesn’t need it. However, that is not a concern about safety and possibly did colour perception as it’s a MO used here.

So again, conspiracy theorists have given up claiming that the vaccines are dangerous because that claim has become too embarrassing for them.

Well then, that's not what is being discussed here.

For example, conspiracy theorists here have claimed that the covid vaccinations as a whole have resulted in tens of thousands of deaths.

Do you believe this claim? How about the others that have been claimed on this thread in the name of "questioning" the vaccine?

My guess is that you will give a wishy washy answer that doesn't openly disagree with the claims being made by conspiracy theorists here, and you will ignore all the lies and false claims being made.

Seems to be the MO to these new posters who randomly butt in with "concerns."

But as we've said many anti-vaxxers have come onto this thread in a similar method to you, claiming they weren't. Only then it slips what they are doing.

So you agree that the claims being made here by conspiracy theorists have been false.

Are you claiming that there is an ulterior motive behind doctors who disagree with you and believe that the vaccines are necessary and safe for children?

Why do they, (The majority of doctors and medical organisations) want to vaccinate children if it is dangerous or unnecessary?