The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

Think I said that about 15 pages ago, dude.

True but most of them would be in favour of a truth and reconciliation process similar to that in South Africa which would give an amnesty to all sides but it will never happen because the British are strongly opposed to it compared with loyalists and Republicans who are strongly in favour of it.

Trying to convict people is pointless all prisoners were released anyway after the GFA and the British are never going to convict their soldiers or persecute MI5 and British army intelligence for doing things that were acceptable back in those days.

It's not like there was any conspiracy involved in things like Ballymurphy or Bloody Sunday, EVERYONE knew what happened they're not going to decide to convict them over it 50 years later, the Queen gave the soldiers medals a few months later even though it was blatantly obvious what they done, also everything the intelligence services were doing was all above board and sanctioned so they are not going to decide to convict any of them over it now.

Basically what the British want is the amnesty but without any truth process, they also want an end to end all inquests and investigations into the past with this amnesty.

That is simply a lie. Those victims of the PIRA are the ones asking for answers. I am supporting them in seeking answers from SF figures like Conor Murphy, Gerry Adams and others. It is the same when Joe Brolly talks about atoning for what people close to him did. Spit it out, Joe, tell the truth. My approach is as far from abusing victims as it is possible to be. I am supporting them in their attempts to get justice. Your twisting of that into abuse is one of the most cynical and disgusting debating tactics I have seen to date.

On the other hand, your use of the Tuam babies is a clear example of the abuse of victims. You are not over on the relevant thread about them posting about their situation. Instead, you are using them on an unrelated thread to deflect and distract where you spend about half of your time posting. Another appalling abuse of victims.

This thread is about Sinn Fein, it is about their recent links to the PIRA, it is about the victims of the PIRA, it is about those in Sinn Fein who had involvement in making those people victims, all of that is relevant to the thread. You just want to shut down conversation about those victims.

I don't care about FF or FG, people can vote for the Greens, the SDs, Labour, independents, even the idiotic alphabet left-wing parties so long as they don't vote for the abomination that is Sinn Fein.

SF supporters think those that are against them are all FFG supporters. That simply isn't true. If there was one lesson from today's opinion poll it is that only those who support Sinn Fein want them in government. Supporters of all other parties would prefer any other government.

Why not blow up a factory late at night after it's closed for the day then?

At the end of the day no one can take away from the justification the Irish people had to attack crown forces, although some people may condemn the IRA based on the fact that a minority of their victims were civilians, no one can deny the legitimacy of the people who with bravery and unselfishness attacked the occupying forces.

Comedy gold, if it wasn't such a serious issue. Yeah, killing innocent people was brave and unselfish.

When did I say anything like that? I claimed bravery on behalf of the Irish people who attacked the occupying forces which the majority of people the IRA killed were.

I have no respect for anyone who deliberately targeted innocent people whether that be people in the IRA in the 1920s or the 1970s.

Yeah, but the problem is nobody is clear whether they would have pursued a zero Covd strategy like Australia and destroyed our economy which depends on links with the world or whether they would have pursued the Swedish model and killed twice as many citizens. Saying you would have done something different when this government has actually managed brilliantly the tightrope between keeping Covid at bay and maintaining people's mental, physical and economic wellbeing is really stupid unless you can explain what that is.