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What non Whiskey or Rum Spirit (Cognac, Mezcal, Calvados etc) are we drinking?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Is marc unaged brandy effectively?

    Pops up in Maigret stories along with the armagnac and calvados.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    I see Con Trass is distilling his cider with Tipperary Boutique Distillery. Look forward to trying that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    Cazale wrote: »
    6 Mezcals in about 50 mins. I'm glad I've no work tomorrow! It was a really great tasting with some amazing samples. I'll have to get a full bottle for the collection.

    Did you actually listen to the live tasting stream? The audio quality was atrocious. I couldn't stand it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Cazale


    Beersmith wrote:
    Did you actually listen to the live tasting stream? The audio quality was atrocious. I couldn't stand it.

    Yeah I do listen to most of them with headphones. Audio with the rep wasn't great but I suppose with the Mexican accent and different time zone that was expected. I was still able to enjoy it and take copious notes. I've done hundreds of video call meetings in work over the last year so maybe I'm just immune to them at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Enjoying Mount Gay Eclipse golden rum from Barbados... both for sipping and in a dark n stormy.

    If you like Havana Club Anejo Especial worth trying out as an upgrade.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭interlocked


    https://symphoniaspirits.com/introducing-symphonias-apple-rum-the-limited-edition-symphonia-no-4/

    This stuff is going on sale in Aldi on June 20th @€;35 for 500ml. Made in Tyrone, I'd never heard of them until I saw it in the Aldi brochure.

    Anyone sampled it already?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    https://symphoniaspirits.com/introducing-symphonias-apple-rum-the-limited-edition-symphonia-no-4/

    This stuff is going on sale in Aldi on June 20th @€;35 for 500ml. Made in Tyrone, I'd never heard of them until I saw it in the Aldi brochure.

    Anyone sampled it already?

    I'm going to stick my neck out and say that this is not a legally labelled product. You can't add spices and apple juice to a product and call it "rum". Just like you couldn't have "apple whiskey".
    I looked at that link and couldn't find the abv of this product on the website.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,819 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Rum liqueur basically, I think they're being downright dishonest with the labelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It seems not that far off 'Zaconey' ... I remember a few threads over the years for people trying to track down the last remaining bottles of that.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Buddy97mm


    From EU Regulation on definition of spirit drinks, Reg 2019/787

    CATEGORIES OF SPIRIT DRINKS
    1.Rum
    (a)Rum is a spirit drink produced exclusively by the distillation of the product obtained by the alcoholic fermentation of molasses or syrup produced in the manufacture of cane sugar or of sugar-cane juice itself, distilled at less than 96 % vol., so that the distillate has the discernible specific organoleptic characteristics of rum.
    (b)The minimum alcoholic strength by volume of rum shall be 37,5 %.
    (c)No addition of alcohol, diluted or not, shall take place.
    (d)Rum shall not be flavoured.
    (e)Rum may only contain added caramel as a means of adjusting the colour.
    (f)Rum may be sweetened in order to round off the final taste. However, the final product may not contain more than 20 grams of sweetening products per litre, expressed as invert sugar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    https://symphoniaspirits.com/introducing-symphonias-apple-rum-the-limited-edition-symphonia-no-4/

    This stuff is going on sale in Aldi on June 20th @€;35 for 500ml. Made in Tyrone, I'd never heard of them until I saw it in the Aldi brochure.

    Anyone sampled it already?

    Are they anything to do with Íon, who seemed to have gone all quiet last time I was checking them out?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,952 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Are they anything to do with Íon, who seemed to have gone all quiet last time I was checking them out?
    Other than sharing a county, no, it doesn't look like it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    irish_goat wrote: »
    Rum liqueur basically, I think they're being downright dishonest with the labelling.

    It's more than misleading, it's actually illegal as I understand it.

    Problem is that, in Ireland, unless it's whiskey, no one really cares about label compliance. Anything labelled as "spiced rum" is not compliant, either. There's loads of gin liqueurs labelled as "gin" about the place, too.
    There was a very big selling gin which up until fairly recently was labelled as Distilled and Bottled by........, when the reality was that it was a compounded gin and wasn't distilled at all!! I believe they have cleared up that issue, now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    There was a very big selling gin which up until fairly recently was labelled as Distilled and Bottled by........, when the reality was that it was a compounded gin and wasn't distilled at all!! I believe they have cleared up that issue, now.

    I had to look up what a compound gin is. Seems I've made a bunch of them myself down through the years.

    I guess I'm a distiller now too. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Has anyone here visited anywhere in the Armagnac region? Looking for a nice distillery or two to visit.

    Was hoping to head to Cognac from Bordeaux, but it's the opposite direction to my final destination. Armagnac is only a short detour of about an extra hours drive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭limnam


    I haven't seen it for awhile now

    Any news? Is it sold out? will it becoming out again or?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,668 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    As I often find with French websites, they aren't very informative. Hoping to swing a visit to one place on a Sunday, via a contact I have here in Dublin.

    I also want to visit a cooperage while there. My other half tried to suggest we find one closer to where we are going in the South. She's forgetting that we had this discussion the last time we drove, and that there aren't any cooperages in the south 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Hugo_Whoriskey


    Happened to be in aldi in Tyrrelstown last week and there was a last bottle there which I happily grabbed, you might be lucky somewhere



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I finally opened the bottle of Stillgarden O'Maro ("Ireland's first amaro") that we've had knocking around.

    It is actually quite nice, and the native botanical element comes through very strongly. I enjoyed it on that level and could recommend it as a gift, for example.

    But for me it's just far too sweet. In fairness, reviewing their copy, although they bill it as something you could use to make a negroni they also do extensively mention a "sweet finish", so there you go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Anybody try the Sake from Aldi?



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    Gonna try out a recent purchase shortly - G&T. But the T is for tea!

    Blackwater Gin with Barry's Tea.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Having done Bsrry's Tea gin and Tanora gin, believe me, the Tayto c&o idea has been knocking around for a while now!



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    Had it. Bleh, just tasted like usual gin, which I'm not a huge fan of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭Beanstalk


    In Italy recently I was in a small café in a village in the mountains and they had some nice spirits. I'm not familiar with rum at all but i had some Zapaca Solera 23 and my god it was lovely. Picked up a bottle in the local shop to take home as well for €50.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭adaminho




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭limnam


    Drinker in I drank a drink I don't like and didn't enjoy it shocker.



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    Thought the tea would make a difference though as I love tea flavoured things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭limnam


    Trying out the rest of the plantation range starting with this.

    It's woody,coconut,vanilla with some nice spices

    Surprisingly long finish on this for the price point.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'm a big fan of that range.

    The 5 yo is the first I fried and a firm favourite.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,484 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Had to buy some sherry for a sauce today, as there was no marsala in the supermarket. Tio Pepe.

    Its really quite pleasant to drink.

    I think I'm getting old!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    It was a shock to me some years ago to find that not only did I care for the somewhat trendy dry sherries, I actually much rather sweet sherry!

    Of course, this conversation should be in the wine thread!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,484 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I dithered over whether this was for the wine thread, or here due to the fortification, for longer than I reasonably should have!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Lol, I've given it way too much thought, too!

    Technically sherry is wine but a fortified wine rather than a light wine - which is what people generally mean when they say "wine".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭XVII


    is white port the same thing as Jerez-Xeres-Sherry? I've recently tried Tesco Finest one and it was absolutely atrocious :(


    So I'm just wondering if it's just not my thing or it's still worth to try proper white port (e.g. Niepoort one Dry White)?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    No, sherry and port come from different countries!

    I really like white port. Sip on it's own, mix with tonic. It's really lovely with apple juice to - and maybe some fizz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    White port is lovely on it's own, or mixed with tonic.

    I think some people open a port or sherry, drink a bit, and put it back in the press for ages. Then it just doesn't taste good whenever they go back to it. Which is understandable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭XVII


    btw tried both Tawny Dee and Dry White by Niepoort and both are absolutely fabulous, my new favorites.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Herself just poured a glass of Hennessy XO. My my that was some purchase for 70 quid last February.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Cachaca artesenal duXico.

    A Brazilian friend brought it back to me.

    No idea what this is like.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Cazale


    That's still on the shelf unopened. I got the last bottle of it in my local Tesco. To be opened soon I think.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I revisited my Killowen small batch dark rum, having recent finished my Appleton 12 year old.

    I'm still picking up strong vegetal and tobacco notes off this, but I don't really mean that in a negative way, it's quite appealing... Like opening a fresh pouch of Sweet Afton tobacco, back when I smoked.

    Previously I compared this unfavourably with the Diplomatico, Cacique and Appleton that I would normally drink, but I think as time has passed I feel more favourably disposed. It's a drier, earthier rum, and that in itself will appeal to many people (perhaps particularly whisky drinkers).

    The higher 55% abv is also very welcome.

    In conclusion, if I was the type to give stars I would boost it up a star or two on my second review, and it would make me consider a second bottle, perhaps of their peated variant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,202 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    From Aldi

    Quite nice, a little too sweet but that seems to be a thing with Aldi and Lidl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    This thread is getting all mixed up.

    Firstly, Rum in a "Non whiskey or rum spirit" thread.

    Then wine!😀



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    My bad, I should have resurrected the rum thread I guess. I saw Limnams post above and wasn’t thinking.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Three hail marys and an our father.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,327 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I missed this post. Have you tried it, yet?

    As I'm sure you know, Cachaca is rather similar to cane juice rum but they tend to use a much wider selection of woods for ageing. Could be very interesting.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,210 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    No, haven't opened it yet, I'll throw up a review when I do.

    There's very little information on the label about production / manufacturing, I guess the regulation must be a lot lighter in Brazil.



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