Mandatory vaccination in Ireland

It drives clicks and 30c texts.

no you won't

Yeah, and let's add in contraception, and vaccines for flu, Hep b, TB ....

you'll take the medicine , and say thank you sir.

Leaving it is working out really well for the UK.

You can refer to northern Ireland as being Ireland I do....but you can't ignore the fact if falls under different control, so measures that are introduced in the Republic of Ireland won't be introduced in northern Ireland....the executive/Westminster will decide

You don't need to use the so-called part...it is the the EU.

People in Ireland don't agree (support is 84% in most polls - and higher in younger people)...so it isn't going to happen. The disaster it has been for the UK (Scotland, Wales and England especially) will cement it.

Ireland wont have compulsorary, or required, vaccination. Ireland has just 5% of adults unvaccinated, 0% of over 60s . The most vulnerable are protected

In countries like Germany or Austria who are considering manditory vaccination theres over 10% of over 60s unvaccinated, and much higher in certain regions. For Germany, to put the percentage into real numbers, thats a not insignificant 3 million unvaccinated over 60 years of age!

Ireland is in a really good place and when Germany and Austria are seeing lockdown and restrictions next winter caused by the ticking time bomb of beligerant pensioners, Ireland will be fully open.

There are about 200,000 to 300,000 unvaccinated and we've had something like half a million official cases in the past few months so no they are not holding us to ransom. That would be the very rapidly spreading transmissible variant causing all these cases in vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. The ICU cases, vaccinated or not, are almost all Delta.

The ICU numbers are subject to small numbers issues.

But overall case numbers include very many vaccinated people. Based on that, I do not see that the unvaccinated are the problem: vaccinated people who think they are bulletproof are as much of an issue.

Ok you might have issues with the small numbers in Ireland.

Have a look at them somewhere else in that case.

Your view about vaccinated people walking around like they are bulletproof, is just that it isn't based on anything

No our dog shît health service is the way it is down to cronic mismanagement for decades, you have bought the government excuse hook line and sinker

It is obviously untrue we have restrictions due to unvaccinated people in hospital with COVID, or in fact any particular number in people in hospital with COVID, because:

(a) we had restrictions when there were almost no people in hospital with COVID.

(b) we had no restrictions when there were many people in hospital with other equally (or more) preventable respiratory viruses

I would like to see someone attempt to formulate a law on restrictions based on hospital pressures that was both consistent with how we've managed hospital pressures and infectious diseases since the establishment of the State, and that didn't specifically mention COVID. It would be impossible.

COVID is specifically novel but not unusual, even in the history of modern medicine.

What is unprecedented is the response.

I would argue that restrictions/lockdowns up until vaccine rollout were needed to save lives, many vulnerable would have died if we had opened up to "hospital capacity" level during that period of time (march 2020 - June 2021), since then, lockdowns are no longer necessary (soon to come treatments will save an extra few %, but not so many that we close off everyone), the mistake made was not opening from August to November and then bringing back some level of restrictions (probably more than we have now as case counts would have started off higher), this was borne out of a desire to only reduce restrictions and never bring them back which it turned out, wasn't possible.

I think it goes with out saying that Covid has exceeded that threshold at this moment in time, a once in a generation pandemic tends to do that.

An applicant would be hard pressed to argue that it doesn't.

The argument will be centered around the punitive actions for non vaccinated.

e.g if someone is prevented from a earning a living, etc.

I think there is a dozen odd European countries bringing in mandatory vaccination is some form, we shall see the court cases soon enough.

We are not even the most vaccinated country in Europe, I think that honor goes to Portugal who shut bars over Christmas.

Probably best not to get your information from the Daily Mail comment section.