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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    We'll probably get a good indication from today's swab numbers whether it's additional capacity or a drop off in tests.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    A number of ladies of a certain aged all behaving the same while you are in Aldi !!! Yeh right



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,842 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Per Examiner yesterday:


    "Mr. Martin said that the government will "certainly not" be considering a change to 8pm curfew for hospitality this week"


    It's not that it surprises me. It's the use of "certainly not", like to do so would cause armageddon, even though there hasn't been any evidence that closing a few hours early has led to anything other than packed establishements in the suburbs from 6pm to 8pm.


    EDIT:

    Also, from Irish Times, referrring to same speech:


    "Mr Martin said he was particularly conscious of the impact of the 8pm closure rule for the battered Irish hospitality and entertainment sectors.

    "We want to give it another week or two. We have not peaked yet (with the latest Covid-19 wave) and the pandemic has had many twists and turns. But I am confident that if we maintain the same focus we can get through this wave,” he said."



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Everyone is now getting the much more transmissible but milder version, you mean, after the precautionary measures helped them to avoid earlier more problematic variants?



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Functionally no change in hospital numbers, down 1 to 1062 😁

    Monday can historically be a bit of an "off" day; lower discharges than the rest of the week, higher admissions. Decent discharge number yesterday still though. 7-day admission rate is flat while the discharge rate is climbing fast.

    Tonight should see the start of good progress this week.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,266 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    1062 in hospital this morning.

    149 admissions in 24hrs, of which 74 had a positive PCR prior to admission.

    116 discharges



  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭VillageIdiot71


    I'm not sure you understood the graph on either occasion. It's looking at rates per 100,000, so the percentage unvaxxed is irrelevant.

    Can you substantiate any of the statements you make in respect of the 40 unvaccinated people with Covid currently in ICU (out of a total cohort of 306,000)?

    What we can substantiate is that 80% of folk in ICU with Covid have underlying conditions, and about 50% are not vaxxed which means at least 60% of unvaxxed folk in that group have underlying conditions. Put another way, out of the 40 people there at present, at least 25 likely have underlying conditions. The other 15 we don't know.

    Do you have any actual information to supplement these facts?



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,374 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Does that mean 70 odd contracted Covid in hospital?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,266 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Nope, hospital outbreak is one of a few possible ways.

    You've also got, in for something else and tested positive on admission along with is sick with covid & couldn't access PCR testing in the community so when admitted with covid symptoms only then does the PCR get done.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Be careful lads..

    Pat Kenny's wife's friend heard a story from their cousin about someone healthy who died after getting Covid.

    3 week lockdown?



  • Registered Users Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Apothic_Red


    Hospital numbers holding steady I see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,672 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Nearly 2k tests available still in Dublin. Surely we’re not seeing that much of a drop in demand?



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Supply has probably ramped up. 42k yesterday, and that's Saturday swabs which are traditionally 20% lower than a weekday. Will probably be the same again today and then potentially 50k+ tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,374 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Great to see considering the massive spikes in cases, just need to ride the wave out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,425 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Did they beg for the vaccine as they were dying only to be told its too late now?

    Bilge radio



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Interesting to see death rates so low in certain countries compared to others.

    Top 10 lowest Covid death rates (per 100,000) in Europe (Dec 28 - Jan 10)

    1. Sweden 1.0

    2. Iceland 1.2

    3. Ireland 1.2

    4. Albania 1.6

    5. Norway 1.8

    6. Malta 2.0

    7. Netherlands 2.1

    8. Spain 2.1

    9. Austria 2.3

    10. Portugal 2.4

    An interesting site showing what Iceland did on the vaccination front. It's looking more and more likely that AZ stood up very well in preventing serious illness in countries that handed out a lot of it to those most at risk especially the older people.


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,425 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    What's the timeframe for close contacts?

    Ie. if a household contact develops symptoms awaiting test, but has had no contact with others in house for 24hours, do others isolate?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,842 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    The WHO have stated today that more than 50% of Europe's population is expected to contract Omicron within the next 6-8 weeks.

    If we aren't at the "living with covid" point now, we never will be. Normal closing time!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,013 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Who knows anymore Fintan. It's like schrodingers cat at this stage.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    ~21,000 positive swabs on ~40,000. These are the swabs taken on Sunday (9th).

    First time since 13th December that the 7-day positivity rate hasn't increased.

    Positivity rate tomorrow will tell us where we are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭mollser


    I'm calling the peak as 8 Jan - slight downward trend appears to be settling in, hopefully accelerates over the next 7 days. Glass half full etc!

    That seems to be 3 days after Denmark and 2 days after England - seems reasonable to me - no way we were 'two weeks' behind them on case levels given this variant, it just took us 2 weeks to cop that it was a new variant we were dealing with!



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Hey Goldengirl,

    A belated Merry Christmas to you and everyone on the covid forum.

    I got covid on Christmas day, then after 12 days of coughing and fatigue I made a full recovery.

    No post-viral syndrome symptoms so I am lucky in that regard.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    The PCR testing coming under less strain has to be the canary in the coal mine.

    It was like Who wants to be a millionaire's fastest finger first at midnight for the last two weeks to get a test. GPs struggling to get a slot for days on end. Now there are plenty available. Yes there might be more tests available, but they should still be booked up if we are running at 2 to 3 times the amount of actual cases versus detected. This really is good news.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,842 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    According to Professor Paul Hunter, an infectious disease expert from the University of East Anglia, the Covid pandemic will become 'endemic' after Omicron wave subsides in the country, provided no other variants emerge, Daily Mail reported. Yet Hunter noted that Covid would "almost certainly" get weaker every year as people develop natural immunity and eventually become a common cold that kills only the very vulnerable further down the line. "Once we're past this Omicron peak, excluding another unexpected variant that reverses all of our progress, then we'll be close to the point of endemic," he was quoted as saying. Currently, about 130 people are dying from the Covid every day in England at what is believed to be the peak of the the Omicron outbreak, compared to 1,300 last January before vaccines were widely available, the report said.


    While infection rates more than quadrupled since September following the emergence of the ultra-transmissible variant, daily deaths have barely changed during the same period. On the other hand, government estimates show there were more than 400 influenza deaths per day at the peak of the last bad flu season in 2017/18, and almost 300 daily fatalities the previous year. Just like this winter, hospitals were forced to cancel routine operations and patients were told to steer clear of A&E units during both of those outbreaks, the report said. The figures showed that the burden of Covid is now comparable to flu, Hunter said. Hunter's comments came as top experts today claimed that the end of the Covid crisis was "in sight" and UK ministers claimed Britain is on a path to "living with" the virus. David Nabarro, from the World Health Organization, said the coronavirus would pose a very difficult situation for the next three months "at least" but insisted "we can see the end in sight". Meanwhile, Professor Graham Medley, No10's chief modeller, warned Covid "can't be an emergency forever" as he said "government decisions" would need to be made about scrapping mass free testing and vaccinations, the report said.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ICU at 92, up 3.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,374 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Im no virology expert like most of the people on Twitter, but if a virus mutates to be less severe, can it go back to being more severe?


    Like if we have Omnicron now, could it mutate to back being as severe as Delta? Or is it a sliding scale down?



  • Registered Users Posts: 578 ✭✭✭VillageIdiot71




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    Indo reporting close contacts who are asymptomatic and boosted might have the isolation period scrapped.

    (It may, key word being may, involve 3 antigen tests and wearing a mask at work).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭cheezums


    There's quite an amusing "i told you so narrative" emerging from the anti everything crowd, failing to grasp that you were completely wrong until very very recently. i.e. only now do we have high levels of vaccine protection and a widespread covid strain that is much less dangerous than what came before, and so talk of ending all restrictions and testing is actually warranted. Even a stopped clock.. springs to mind.



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