Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

Hubbard deliberately threw the lifts.

He was in his 40s when he went to the Olympics.

He also was out of the sport for many years and had suffered serious injuries in a crash.

Despite all that he qualified.

I'm not trying to impart any narrative.

From your OP, this athlete had surgery, but just not the hormone treatments, I am not aware of the specific rules around being entitled to compete in Mens swimming. I would imagine taking artificial testosterone would be more of a barrier due to doping regulations, is there any minimum testosterone requirement for a man to compete in Mens swimming?

Did this athlete try to compete in the mens event and was refused, so he was forced to compete in the womans event instead?

If the whole point of allowing trans women to compete in womens competitions is because they identify as women, then why is the reverse not applied, if you do not identify as a woman, you should not compete in the womens event?

Has there been a single instance of a trans man asking to be taken out of a womens event and to compete in a mens event? And if so, how did they perform?

But they are not allowed to compete in those races because their prosthetics are not equivalent to the human body. Sport has so many divisions and classes to make competition fair and, well, competitive

@Bannasidhe Man's birth cert says he is a man - ok say the organisers.

Woman's birth cert says she is a woman - well, we need to test you to be sure say the organisers..

Not true at all , female athletes raised concerns about one particular person who was competiting against them in events who happened to look and run like a male athlete ,

Seems that they were right to raise concerns.

Freak anomalies in biology is one thing but women deserve to compete in a Fair and level playing field ,not expected to compete with men looking to get famous for the wrong reasons

A transphobic hate fuelled rant doesnt prove me wrong.

For a start for someone that claims they are not taking a position on this you do seem to argue for one particular viewpoint in this debate quite a lot. 🙄

Oh and you keep making statements that one had no changes bar a double mastectomy.

Maybe someone could argue that made her more aerodynamic in the water?

Anyway the big thing I would like to know is which one is going to be in this years Rose of Tralee.

Now I am going to run away. 🏃‍♀️ .....

It would depend on each countries law and the rules/regulations of each sport

As you know There social and medical transitions ,both are acceptable that your are now your chosen or preferred gender

That's ok.

Nice to see that posters are not always so adamant.

If we all accepted that our positions cannot be absolute, the net would be a better place.

Men are tested for a variety of performance enhancing substances. Oestrogen is not considered to be performance enhancing. Otherwise, men would be tested for it. In fact, one strategy for indirect androgen (testosterone) doping has been to artificially reduce oestrogen levels, which has the effect of increasing the natural levels of testosterone. The substances which promote that are banned.

Sex testing used to be required for women athletes at the Olympics but I'm pretty sure it isn't currently.

The reason it was was because it is the female category that is protected, not the male one. It's assumed (and born out by experience) that women generally don't want to enter men's competitions, but that's not the same the other way round.

I don't think anyone has ever suggested that natural hormone levels would be the way to determine sex for sport. Chromosomes are a much better, though still imperfect way. But, it would be better than the rules as they are now, bizarrely, because only a tiny number of intersex women are affected negatively by the chromosome definition, as opposed to potentially over 50% of the entire population now.

Like ???

You can self declare your chosen gender there is no legal requirement unless your looking for a cert ,but there is no legal requirement to do anything

It depends on each country.

Meh. Arseholes will be arseholes

And?