Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Ah yeah, just myself. Happy Wednesday back!

The first ever vaccine with no side effects? Whilst also being the most fast tracked ever?

can you answer my small sized brain one question? Why does the flu jab make up change every year?

Sure, there's a vaccine thread if you want to dig into it (the flu vaccine changes every 6 months at least, often more often, depending on the dominant strains of influenza that are circulating in each hemisphere).

Only if there's vaccine escape (influenza is a highly mutagenic virus so the vaccine usually contains 3-4 different strains at once), SARS-COV2 has remained remarkably stable so far with original virus (pre-Alpha) vaccines remaining highly effective, likely due to the targeting of the spike protein.

But as said, questions should be asked in the Vaccine megathread instead of here.

I really am curious as to what 2022 will hold for us.

Same **** as usual it would seem

Because the influenza virus mutates. Something a lot on here apparently did not surprisingly seem to know as they seem to believe they were promised that a single regime of a vaccine would give them sterilising immunity to a Covid virus that was known before vaccines were available, could, and had actually mutated.

You could say that flu vaccine, which change practically yearly are even more fast tracked than the Covid vaccines were, but nobody has a problem with that for some strange reason.

J&J gave me 9 hours in A & E and a myocarditis diagnosis.

Thank you for telling me that didn't happen though, doctor. Was confused for a moment.

I had the j&j as well,and no way will I take another

I won't be taking a fourth no more than I take the annual flu vaccine. Simply put, I don't need it, don't get any benefit from it, and Omicron is little more than a mild cold for the vast majority of people.

That's not to say that I think that it shouldn't be available to those who want it, but it need to become a voluntary thing like every other covid measure (including masks).

We cannot let this country slide into a position where businesses are closed, people put out of work, told to stay away from others and wear masks every winter just because people get the sniffles and the HSE still can't manage the health service.

the side effects that some have suffered are not "for the worse"? a bold claim.

Anyway you continually have misrepresented what i was said in that post - it's not worth discussing with you.

Post below is spot on accurate.

Regarding restrictions: if Nphet will give advice about lifting restrictions on january 20 prior to implementation on january 30 there will be very little time for case and especially hospitalisation numbers to drop as it is only 7 days away. I would guess they would like the restrictions to stay as they are even though numbers are likely to drop further from 20 to 30 january. The government could sell that as the advice given on which they base their decision. Watch that space!

Oh, and can we talk some more about vaccinations and boosters please?! There is very little mention of those topics..😆

I believe by law you don't have to disclose your vaccination status to your employer in Ireland, maybe I am wrong?

With the new isolation rules regarding less days isolating with the booster, are people who need to stay out of work telling employers whether they are boosted or not by the number of days they need off?

Which in effect is telling your employer whether you are vaccinated or not?

I have not been in this situation but it was a thought i had, I could be completely wrong so happy to delete if I am wrong.

I think the first booster was probably needed, anything after that is flogging a dead horse.

I think after this wave barring any nasty mutations COVID will become endemic to winter and only the at risk groups will be given annual boosters.

id say from februaruy 1st we will have 10pm curfew, thats what NYPHET will be happy with as its people in restauraunts who dont behave same way as people on a big sesh. so they will be happy enough to bring that in but id say everything else in hospitality offical rules will stay the same. cant see nightclubs open til mid june. they will be on about saving summer, unfortunatley we could see the nightclubs shut in late october and 10pm curfew again next winter. that would suit the medics really well, no late night A and E incidents, drunken violence after nightclubs etc. You get the feeling medics would be happy to see an 11pm curfew end of story for all hospitality in ireland. They believe people should just sit at a table drink 2 or 3 glasses of wine or 2 or 3 bottles of beer and head home, or go for dinner and glass of wine and home by 11pm. they seem to not be bothered as much with younger people having parties in houses where they can drink bottles of wine and vodka and take ecstasy and coke all night, seem happier with that than having it happen in a nightclub. I would say the likes of Galway Race week really drives them mad, where you have all ages acting like teenagers, 17-50 year olds!