221 - any pics of new cars ?

Yes very quiet this year. I thought about starting a thread but thought one would be started soon so did not bother.

Spotted this yesterday...

Edit, not sure how I rotate an image....

Replacing my wifes 2019 Velar... P400e this time .. great job so far.

Digital Instrument Cluster

Pivi Pro System with wireless android auto / apple Carplay

360 Degree Cameras instead of reversing alone

Cheap Road Tax and 10% insurance reduction :)))

the quietness and the power is the big thing ... the 180 was powerful enough with young kids in the car

but was a noisy enough old yoke when trying to take off or pass out

JLr are really struggling for parts at the moment so if you order now ,they dont have the chips for

Digital Instrument cluster ,360 camera or even a spare key... you dont get any reduction in price either for doing without these features.

I got a new defender in September and still no spare key but trade ins are massive at the moment which makes up for it.

No pics, so apologies in advance, but I've seen three 221 cars around Waterford since the start of the year:

• White Transit (Connect?) van (the small one)
• White Mazda MX-30 (looks great, but short electric range means we probably won't see many of them)
• Dark Mazda 6

Those options are added to your 221 or taken away because of chip shortage?

great looking car, well wear.

was just remarking yesterday that I haven’t seen a single 221 yet, bar a dealer Kia EV6, and I’m out on Dublin commuter roads every day.

the New Year’s Day bank holiday being the Monday 3rd, might’ve meant the first day was the 4th

im 100% serious ,no retrofit later ...

in the uk and us guys are trading in 6-12 month old defenders and making 20k due to the waiting list

have a look at the market adjustment dealers are adding to new cars in the states its mental...

Yeah,they were 96k for a while last year ,up to 108k now ,,, new model on the way ,presume they will go up mad judging by the price of the full size RR.

i see one JLR garage has one of the new RR on the way 235k with the D250 engine :(

Sorry that should have said mostly commercial versions being bought

Anyone who doesn't trust the Government to compensate for the stress that data centres and the non-replacement of peat fired stations are putting on the national grid, for one.

A stress on the system that will only increase the more people buy EVs!

Why in hell would anyone pay a 15 to 20% premium for a family car just because its electric. My missus has her Rav4 self-charging hybrid, nice little runaround, low emissions, impeccably reliable and resale value doesn't matter cos I'll run it into the ground, which will be at least another decade.

Current planning rules completely at odds with electric car promotion.

well wear on the 4 series , I work down the road from Kearys but am a Dub myself and so is Bill Keary . You probably noticed Kearys are way ahead of the likes of Joe Duffys , visited Joe Duffys over the xmas - was underwelmed . Kearys have a huge stock and some very impressive new and used models.

I wouldn't buy an EV at present.

In fact, i reckon whatever about a new diesel, a new fuel efficient petrol ICE only car is actually a solid investment.

Well wear!

I’ve got the current 4gc and am a big fan of the new one, both in ice or i4 form.

was pricing a like-with-like spec as my old one - it’s about €57k v €64k, about 15% increase over the past few years, notwithstanding the new one being a step up in tech and ability, plus raw material inflation.

How do you know this? I thought only SIMI members could view those stats day by day?

The 10-day numbers for each month are made public usually, they just don’t tend to get circulated much outside of Jan and July