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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Oh, you as well. Go on, show me where I said that I can go a whole week without being restricted. You can't because I didn't. I do give a ****...but my culture hasn't been destroyed and my way of life hasn't been decimated.

    Just to clear up for once and for all what was actually said - someone posted hyperbole stating that restrictions have effected EVERY aspect of our lives. I replied to say that they haven't effected EVERY aspect of our lives and that I could, in fact, go for days without them effecting me in any way. Sin é.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Breaston Plants


    What's the craic with the list of gigs on your posts?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,222 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Blatantly ignoring where I mentioned places of interest, eating out, public celebrations, tourism and music and the arts.

    OK...Enjoy your next trip over the boarder for pints, where you abandon your own culture



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,222 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Rub it into people's faces...

    "Look at what I'm doing that you're not because I go across the boarder, unlike you lot!"



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    People are afraid to visit relatives out of fear of giving them covid. Elderly are living in more isolation than before because of covid. Social gathering are nothing like before, most are gone.

    Ways of life have changed massively for many



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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,476 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    All of those bands, singers, artists, actors, all of those creative types thrown on the bonfire for two years by the middle aged work from home crowd.

    Yes I am sure we are going to have some culture alright, they will all just pick up where they left off, no bother.

    Hopefully some of those children they also threw on the bonfire will be able to develop and contribute to culture in years to come. Thats if the ****** in charge ever let them live of course.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭walus


    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭brickster69


    MEP's press conference today. Shocking stuff what is going on


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭growleaves


    No he mentioned artists performers and musicians - which covers theatre, opera, pantomime, classical music recitals, comedy, street performer festivals

    He mentioned sports - GAA but of course all sports are affected. Couldn't even train for a team sport during many highly-restricted periods due to isolation rules.

    He mentioned tourism - need I produce a big list of tourist attractions..? No one can start or maintain a tourist business because they never know when they'll have access to customers.

    Yes drinking is on the list as well, and why not there's nothing wrong with it. It encompasses a big part of the dating scene, the music scene, the tourist experience, after match drinks or meeting your friends to hang out. Wine and conversation in cocktail bars.

    To maintain this nullification we have to swallow all kinds of fudged statistics, rationales for extended closures which make no sense and real economic activity (trade) is replaced with monetary stimulus which while it might not lead to economic collapse is neither harm-less nor preferable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,266 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    It's nothing to do with Robert malone! He is just the latest person to say this. Yes technically you can get compensation from the government but this is rarely granted


    “The liability protections afforded under the PREP Act are tied to the declared public health emergency and not whether the vaccine is sold under an EUA,” Castillo said. “Therefore, both Comirnaty and the Pfizer-BioNTech covid-19 vaccine receive the same liability protections as medical countermeasures against covid-19.”


    So Pfizer etc aren't liable for vaccine injuries then, whether it's approved or not, as long as a public health emergency is in place(which it is)? So no need for the brand name fuckery then, they are covered either way? Thanks for clearing that up.

    Post edited by ceadaoin. on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,375 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭walus


    What the last guy in this video says can possibly help people understand what those from behind the ‘iron curtain’ think about all this. Freedom is as air and water, necessary to live. Period. And those from the eastern block fought for it the hard way. They know to resist early, because if they don’t soon there will no one who will be able to resist.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    What do you mean? They're the gigs I was at last year and the ones I'll be going to this year.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I've updated that list every year for the past five or six...so, no.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Yeah, they're not eradicated. Everything is still ticking away.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,476 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    How many of them took place in Southern Ireland?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Not one. What does it matter? Am I not allowed to travel to gigs now?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    I would suggest that NPHET/Government policy right now is to ensure that the current Pandemic status is maintained for as long as can be.

    The possibility of Omicron not performing up to the standard of Delta or whatever simply cannot be countenanced.

    The reality of this VERY disturbing situation is being seen across Western Europe,as some of the oldest and most stable democracies in the World,vie with each other to be the most draconian in INCREASING their Covid response in inverse proportion to the actual current seriousness of Covid infections.

    It is very obviously a deviant form of governance,totally off the scale of moderation.

    The Pandemic threat subsided in mid 2020,if it ever really was a threat at all.

    All that followed,and now remains was Socio-Political experimentation allied to a form of administrative lunacy perhaps best typified in current Australian events.

    It appears that a significant number of people no longer view individual freedoms as anything of worth...at all 😲

    THAT is the current Pandemic !


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    Could you consider getting out of your own head for just one second and thinking about how it affects people who are not you personally, before you make sweeping judgments about how everything is grand?

    Like, imagine an older couple in a rural village with no car. Maybe they don't drink that much, but they go the local pubs a few times a week, once for dinner, once for a live music show, once for a quiz. Other than that, they don't really go anywhere.

    Do you see how their way of life is:

    1: Completely **** valid, regardless of condescending pricks on Boards dot ie, and

    2: Completely decimated by restrictions.

    Like it's bad enough that you pull this **** repeatedly, but then you have the audacity to throw yourself a little pity party and pretend you're being picked on when people point out that you seem to have an inordinate amount of trouble seeing past the end of your own nose or imagining anything outside of your own experience.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Maybe for you and people In your social bubble. Count yourself lucky.


    You clearly can't see any viewpoint than your own.


    I'll give you a rundown of just the past few months for us shall I?

    Father, musician, out of work again due to 8pm closing

    No Christmas concert for the kids drama/dance classes

    No visiting relatives for fears of covid

    No family celebrations for birthdays/anniversary /Xmas outside of household

    No bingo/dancing/socialising for grandparents,basically stuck in their house outside of a daily walk where they don't talk to anyone.

    No foreign travel due to the hassle of it

    Masks/certs/ etc etc......

    Loads more


    But ya everything's grand



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,858 ✭✭✭growleaves


    On hold for two years (and counting), not ticking away. Varadkar/Martin already said there would be restrictions until mid-decade with "pockets of freedom". This year we will have mid-summer off it looks like - a few weeks or, at best, months.

    Until mid-decade can become until end-of-decade.

    When something is put on hold for years with talk of it being put on hold for many more years its being suppressed. There's a sliver of deniability because someone will occasionally use the word 'temporary' or say 'we don't know'.

    Irish people don't object, just make excuses and get angry at people who want restrictions ended or don't go along with some rule due to paternalism (Daddy Varaddy knows best) and demoralisation, which is total.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,476 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck




  • Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    Irish people don't object,

    But if it's that long, many will move, people will stop coming here, people will stop wanting to live here, and the giant tech companies that have kept our economy afloat while SMEs have been sacrificed on the Covid altar will go elsewhere to attract talent.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    How about you actually think about the post I was responding to? "If we're not afraid then why have we eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life?" 'We' haven't eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life. Most people have adapted and are getting on with things. Some people have had more disruption than others. The thing is, it will all return. I understand that the poster I quoted thinks some of this is permanent. I don't. Yis are full of doom. I'm not.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The people have now moved on the politicians scientists and media are completely out of step

    they lost whatever power they had over Christmas when they went on holiday and we as a people didn’t have to listen to them anymore and had time to think

    when they returned their empty threats just seemed silly



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Look...this misunderstanding is on you. I didn't and haven't said everything is grand. I just don't accept hyperbole like, "...why have we eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life?" This isn't black and white. There are many shades of grey.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    So you don't think we've eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life? Why did you post it in the first place then?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,583 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Oh, you're attempting a 'Gotcha!' Forgive me for not taking you on.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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