PS5 thread 2.0

I kinda don't want to pay more than 60 a year for my sub but I've a feeling tier 3 will be a bit more than that and the PS2 and especially PS3 games will draw me in. I saw today that Mark Cerny has a patent for backwards compatibility but that could be completely standard. I'm gonna jump to the conclusion that it's for PS3.

I was just going to ask that, I have a stacked ps+ sub and 10 months left on ps now sub. How will they roll existing subs into this new model I wonder?

They'll time apportion your remaining subs and give you an option to convert pro rata to one of the three tiers is my guess.

So if the price is €80, €120 and €160 per year and you've 6 months left on your Plus sub they'll give you an option of getting 4.5, 3 or 2.25 months of each new tier.

I don't see them offering the 1:1 upgrade that Microsoft offers when converting Live to Game Pass Ultimate.

Plus is €60 and Now is €60 so I think they'll try for €120 for the year. I can't see them combining those and selling them for less than €100.

I think they'll do €40 as the gap between tiers so that's how I picked €80 and €160 but if they do €100 for the mid tier then drop these by €20 each.

If you want cloud saves then you'll have to pay for one of them. It still pisses me off that Sony charge for this.

Oh GT7 is looking buttery smooth. Definitely picking it up as soon as I'm able. Interested to see how the DualSense is implemented, because I have a G29 but that don't have haptics (ermagherd, haptic steering wheel... get on it Sony!).

Re: Spartacus, I've no interest in the 4/3/2/1 games, so mid tier sounds like it's for me. Trying playing Fable Anniversary last night in GP, and it made me queasy, like many games I've tried that are pre-PS4 era. So second tier for me.

Isn't force feedback as haptic feedback?? I wish my G29 pedals had feedback too

Dirt 5 has haptic feedback so it's an interesting precursor into how GT will implement it. Will be interested to see if that added haptic feedback detail that is included in GT7 is integrated into the newer wheels that are out there

i loved it . was great fun .

I thought the PS Plus collection made up for a fairly mediocre year of monthly games on average in comparison to other years. But if that wasn't there as I probably wouldn't have renewed this year either.

It's a couple of years since I've played a Call of Duty game, but will the Microsoft take over of Activision mean the end of COD on PlayStation? Would surely be a big blow to Sony. As has been mentioned before, a lot of people are just getting consoles to play the likes of COD or FIFA

Yeah, it will be a massive blow to Sony. Cue the rumours that Microsoft will be buying Sony soon azer will be no one else left to buy ;)

It also doesn't help when Sony are charging for some of the PS4 to PS5 upgrades when Microsoft just give it to you.

Sony need to come out with something similar to Smart Delivery. It's a bit of a faf on PlayStation to get the best version of a game downloaded compared to on Xbox.

EA would cost even more than this acquisition so I don't think that's on the cards. Anyway EA Play is included in Game Pass already so they've that service available already.

There's definitely little in either the Zenimax or Activision acquisitions that hugely interest me as a gamer. Overwatch 2 would be a big hit to lose, and the games from Arkane. I loved Crash 4 but if I didn't get to play any further games I'd be okay. The games I'm most looking forward to over the next few years are the likes of Horizon, God of War, Ghost of Tsushima, whatever Naughty Dog do next, Spider-Man 2, Wolverine.... These are the types of games I get most excited about and look forward to the most, and Playstation do those types of games better than anyone. Even with Microsoft's acquisitions, they don't hold anything for me that matches those games (never been a Fallout/Elder Scrolls guy). Maybe Hellblade 2 but I haven't played the original yet even on Playstation.

But the value of Gamepass is insane to me. Even the likes of Hades and now Death's Door being free on Gamepass is fantastic, games I was skeptical of buying because I'm not always a fan of those types of games but took a punt on because of how well received they were on PC. I'd be more likely to give games like that a try on Gamepass, because they're free.

What that means for the devs who make those types of games given that they don't get money from sales but rather through whatever deal they do with Microsoft is another story. Likewise, if the big franchises are losing money from sales, does it push them even harder to implement additional revenue like microtransactions, battlepasses etc? If so, does that impact the games themselves as we've seen previously where lootbox or mtx implementation causes games to become more of a grind or more pared back content to encourage the purchase of those things (eg. Shadow of War, Fallout 76), even more so than we've already seen happen.

Gamepass is a great deal for gamers. No question. I'm not overly convinced that it's the best for the games themselves, or some of the smaller devs.