What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

So people were concerned enough about Muslims driving during Ramadan ( especially school and other public transport vehs) that that they organized a petition which had enough signatures to be presented to parliament, who rejected it. And this is the same parliament who approved the rules and regulations surrounding HGV driving. Speed limited vehs, set driving and rest times, mandatory use of tachographs, and fitness of drivers. No alcohol or any other drugs ( or indeed anything which might impair their driving) Its pretty strict, and with severe penalties' for drivers caught breaking the law.

Now compare the UK/ EU driving laws with the below:-

Take your practicing Muslim. He will be up at 05:00 hrs' for the first prayers, then depending where in the world he is, he will have his breakfast before sunrise, then off to work. Until Sunset, nothing will pass his lips. Nothing, no food no water, and in Muslim Country's temperatures can and do often rise above 40c. So again depending on which month of the year Ramadan falls on, and the geographic location, can be 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 hrs of daylight. Serious dehydration occurs, on top of hunger. Then at sunset, eating and drinking ( Iftar) to your hearts content long into the night. Then sleeping until 05:00 hrs next morning and the routine begins again.....for a whole month. So its no surprise when you find your colleagues hit the fatigue wall around 15:00 hrs. Sleepy, tired, irritable.. Does that fit with UK / EU driving laws? would you say?

As for your "Bottom of the barrel stuff."... well OEJ, what I have written is my own personal experience of Islam and living and working with Muslims.. 24 years, in fact. Now if you personally really want to experience Islam,, instead of following it on TV and the newspapers, go and live in an Islamic Country for a year or two, see the real Islam first hand on the ground and then we will discuss.

What was that you said earlier about spin?

You asked for examples, you got them. Now quit being sore about it.

Yes jm, it IS bottom of the barrel stuff when you’re trying to suggest that Muslims are a threat to the general public in the UK and Ireland, or the EU if you want to, on the basis that they are Muslim. That’s precisely why the UK Government response to their petition was pretty much “what do you want us to do about it?” 😂

It would be no different were anyone to submit a petition that BMW drivers imagine they’re above the law (they’re wrong, that’s Mercedes drivers 😂), and expecting the UK Government to do anything about it when they already have laws which apply to everyone equally, regardless of their religion or none, is just motivated by a desire to be petty, and it shouldn’t be entertained. Driving without due care and attention, or putting other road users at risk through their own lack of consideration for other road users is not strictly limited to anyone on the basis of their religious identity. Road accidents are not caused by religion.

I don’t want to travel to countries where I know I’d be likely to keel over from culture shock before I’d even get to the arrivals area (I’m not familiar with the terminology because I don’t really have any need to be around airports, but you get the point), and I’ve turned down invitations to go to the US, China, India, Australia, Africa, Middle East… I love hearing about my friends adventures abroad and I have a huge respect for our defence forces and troops deployed to those countries, but for myself I just think “No, thank you, it’s not for me!”

If anyone wants to live in a country where people who are diabetic are banned from driving, that’s entirely their prerogative. I live in a country where incidents of insulin induced road rage really isn’t all that common, if it happens at all. It’s not a thing in Ireland, and they are not prohibited from driving any more than I am, and I’m more of a danger to myself and other road users than they are, if you wish to prohibit people from driving based upon their risk to themselves and other road users.

If the point of your argument is that Muslims should be banned from driving in European countries because they pose a threat to other road users on the basis of their behaviour, then that ban extends to everyone regardless of their religion. You’re hardly likely to argue that the ban on women driving in Saudi Arabia was because it was determined by statistics that women are a greater threat to other road users on the basis that they’re women!

I don’t want to personally experience Islam jm, any more than I want to live in a society which isn’t bloody far off it if some people here had their way. It has nothing to do with Islam, and everything to do with trying to curb peoples freedoms, motivated by pettiness more than anything. It’s no different than the rulers of the many countries where you lived (the Stans 😂), where they are so determined to avoid “importing Western liberal values”, which is the main reason why people from those countries don’t want to live under such regimes, and try to escape them if they can. I’m simply in a position where I don’t have to is all, nor do I have any inclination or desire to stop people from trying to make a better life for themselves and their families, nor would I support measures intended to try and prohibit them from doing so.

I prefer to live in a country where the idea of “Bluetooth dating” is still a foreign concept -

It was then at least, dunno what it’s like now, have they heard of Tinder jm? 😂

I don’t need the translation to get the gist of that anyway 😂

Maybe the point is that a religion that imposes onto their followers such drastic rituals cannot be considered moderate and compatible with European values. And if parents are enforcing this onto their children, or permitting them to engage willingly, and they do, they should be charged with child abuse or neglect.

Well there we have it folks we eventually have someone giving us a tangible benefit of multiculturalism - it provides plenty of jobs in the dole office! Epic stuff Jack!

So Poles and Hungarians are on the **** list too?

That doesn't answer my question.

Then with the loony left manning the barricades on behalf of those same profiteers, anyone would smell a rat.

This is why Labour got their ass handed to them in all those Northern seats in 2019. And Johnson is taking a thumping in Brexit seats like Shropshire because he has not been anywhere near Conservative enough since, with the situation in the Channel, and the cost of living a complete joke.

Learn the lessons from England.