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Djokovic

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Also as I'm sure others have commented upon on here, isn't it very convenient that he got a positive PCR test on the 16th of December. How was he planning on entering Australia if he hadn't contracted covid at that point? He hardly decided to enter the Australian Open on a whim after the 16th of December. A more cynical person might say that his team looked at all the possible ways he could get into the country unvaccinated and decided that a positive PCR was the best route.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    What does politics have to do with him lying on his immigration forms? Unless you believe the rich and famous should be held to a lower standard than everyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    It's about the public respecting and obeying the rules & guidelines, which has a major impact on public health. It's got nothing to do with Novak's diet, tennis abilities or his chances of infecting others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    The timing was convenient alright but it doesn't mean he didn't have it. Intentionally going out and getting covid was probably the obvious thing for him to do if he wanted to play in Australia without being vaccinated (as far as he'd been told by tennis Australia).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Take covid out of it.

    He lied on his Visa application about his previous countries prior to entry. Delighted for once, the laws have been applied to someone who feels they are above them



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭CGI_Livia_Soprano
    Holding tyrants to the fire


    This is great news. Fair play to the Aussies, I will raise a middy of Tooheys in their honour tonight. Cheers! 🍻 🦘 🥝



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Risky though. Even if he is a moron and probably believes he could heal himself with crystals up his arse, his team would advise that contracting a respiratory disease a month out from a major tournament stands a high chance of reducing his performance.

    Given the involvement of high politicians in Serbia into this issue, it's very plausible that he was issued with a fake PCR result after a quick phone call to the ministry of health.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭Royale with Cheese


    Well Nadal has had it recently (and was actually ill) so I'll guess we'll see!



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭ballyargus


    Grasshole gets his comeuppance. A good news story - for once.



  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I was Djokovic I would get the hell out of Australia now and let them carry on with their dictatorship. So much hate over something that doesn't affect 99.99% of people.


    Djokovic was used as a prop in an authoritarian theatric performance of an overbearing government gone mad about a cold virus which has a current death rate lower than the annual flu. Covid hysteria and wokeness rules in Australia.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID




  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    What a complete dog and pony show from the Australian government.

    Fair enough they managed to get him on an arbitrary technicality in the end. Their country, their rules.

    As for the general population cheering it on. Shaking my god damn head. They ire is misdirected.

    Laughing at Scott Morrison harping on at good order when he himself showed himself up as a hypocrite regarding borders:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-07/scott-morrison-criticised-sydney-trip-covid-lockdown/100439354

    We will look back on this pandemic in years to come with embarrassment. Such a hysterical over reaction globally. A political football masquerading as a health crisis.

    A perfectly healthy man who played there last year unvaxxed nixed at the stroke of a pen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 923 ✭✭✭ujjjjjjjjj


    Sad comments on here. The vitriol is staggering. Yes people will point out that he lied on his immigration form and it is a safe kick to touch 'well what choice did they have' response.

    Fine but just ask yourself if they had thrown him out anyway or his legal case had failed and he was just thrown out for being unvaccinated would your comments be any different.

    We have rapidly regressed into a bunch of sanctimonious curtain twitchers looking for witches....and then ranting and burning them at the stake.

    I am vaccinated and many people are but I have absolutely no issue with people who choose not to be. I entirely support them and respect their decision and would have no problem spending time with an 'anti vaxer' and have done. Entirely respect their view and bodily integrity.

    This thread is just a tragic sign of the hysterical 'burn the anti vaxers'......mentality now embedded in our sad little society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭Shelga


    He lied on his entry form.

    He lied on his entry form.

    He lied on his entry form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,323 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Where is the 99.9% figure coming from?

    And your statement about flu being more deadly?

    Anything I read doesn't back that up.

    Even if you include pneumonia which you don't seem to be doing...covid deaths are higher.

    "Data from the Office for National Statistics show that in England and Wales the number of deaths from influenza was 1598 in 2018 and 1223 in 2019.1 This is way below the annual deaths from covid-19, which at the current rate of around 800 deaths a week in England and Wales equates to more than 40 000 a year."




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭oisinog


    Or is it the more likely story that a spoiled sports person though that he was above the entry requirements for a country.


    He either conveniently caught covid or arranged for a fake positive to allow him entry, when this was not a requirement for entry into the country.

    He broke his own countries covid laws

    He lied on a visa application

    There is enough reason here to have the visa canceled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,024 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Precisely, I've been arguing this point from the outset, I care less about his vaccination status or stance, he got preferential treatment, took the Pee , showed breathing arrogance, then Farage sails in to defend the indefensible. Its been a farce from start to finish and whilst those who'll defend this arrogant clown based on the whole Covid Argument, they'll, not ever, ever see that this arrogant P****K did anything wrong and I might add Australian Tennis have questions to Answer also.

    Excellent result , Game, set and Match 😁

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,714 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    This has nothing to do with health and safety and rules.

    it’s the usual folks clamouring to see people in positions of power and people who are very successful and talented, fail and fall.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    You have said it better than I have.

    The mob are delighted he got his comeuppance for being arrogant, lying on a form, thinking he is above the rules etc

    But really they are delighted because he didn't get vaccinated and they want him punished for that.

    It was always about him not being vaxxed as opposed to integrity of border control, public health etc.

    They are annoyed he had the temerity to not do what they have chosen or been coerced into doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,376 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    It's hard to know where to begin with the number and depth of the ways you are wrong, so I won't.

    But you are. And you know it too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    people (especially australian people) have a right to be annoyed that somebody thought that being good at tennis made him special and above the rules applied to everybody else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,903 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    They have every right to be antivax but with that decision comes consequences, in this case it’s a requirement to enter the country and he doesn’t meet that. Same as any other potential traveller into Australia.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s folks wanting to see people on positions of power not take the piss. The Boris Johnson party thing is the exact same



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    I hear you Dempo, but I also ask myself this.

    If he had filled in the forms in the exact same way in say 2016 would this be a big issue?

    Or would it be chalked off as a clerical error by whoever filled in the form and assistance would be given to him to tidy up the paperwork.

    Is it about public health, border control or is it about making an example out of a fella who is careless filling in forms.

    If it is about public health he is no more dangerous this year than he was last year.

    If its about border control, he's hardly coming to sponge of the state or smuggle in a load of cocaine.

    If its about filling in forms incorrectly.....they have got him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,323 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Nonsense.

    People haven't given out about other players who stayed at home and sat out the AO due to not being vaxxed as far as I can see?

    People have an issue with the fact he tested positive (rather conveniently) went to events after he knew this fact, plus he lied on his form on entry...which in Australia is a serious issue. He used his money, lawyers and status to attempt to stay but it looks like it won't work.

    He can of course choose not to get vaccinated but Australia has a right to set it's own conditions for entering their country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nothing to show? They have had one third the number of deaths as Ireland while having 4 times the population. That's 99 deaths per million people vs Ireland's 1202.

    Your nothing to show for it works out at 31,097 people still alive who wouldn't have been had they Ireland's great record. We are the ones with little to show for it and the future deaths from late cancer diagnosies and other illnesses will probably dwarf the covid deaths.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,376 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    No actually, I'm happy enough that both he and me are treated the same if we want to enter Australia. That's the bottom line and it's evidently what the Aussie people care about more, because only 77% of them have taken up vaccination after it being available for 10 months now.

    I don't give a bollix that he didn't get vaccinated, he can do what he likes, however we all live in a society and there are communal consequences for individual choices, so those that choose not to have it must accept the consequences with their eyes wide open. Djokovic would face limitations on his daily life all over Europe too for choosing not to get vaccinated, so let's stop pretending that this is a uniquely Australian issue.



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭cannonballTaffyOjones


    The good thing about all this is it will backfire on Australia, the world knows what a fascist shithole it's become.

    Also the people happy about it, good to know who the little medical dictators are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,714 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    They are booting him out based off a clerical error.

    way OTT here. Zero common sense, and staggering pettiness.

    and no surprise really.



  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭cannonballTaffyOjones


    of course you are.

    How is that SS uniform fitting ?



  • Posts: 5,869 [Deleted User]


     If he got sick I'm sure he'd leave and be taken care of by his own medical team elsewhere

    Why would you think that? What has he done recently to demonstrate that he gives a single shimmering, shiny fook about anyone or anything else other than his own personal interests?

    And that's even if he did have Covid. Because, let's face facts here.......the reality is either:

    a) he DID have it, and knowingly met with a whole load of people, including a load of kids for a photo op or

    b) he didn't have it, and got the powers that be to falsify his records to show this

    Either are grounds for refusal, and both of them make a mockery of your assumption that he would 'do the right thing'. He has been given ample opportunity to do so while the focus of the world was not on him. Now that it is, any claims that he'll turn over a new leaf should be met with derision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,024 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Honestly, Australian border controls are renowned for being one of the strictest in the world. I do agree the declaration if done in 2016 may not be so much of an issue, but looking at this objectively, there's a lot more than just the declaration form that has been considered, yes I accept the vaccine stance also in the mix, my entire argument has been the shenanigans that occurred, the wink and nod so to speak, I've Honestly stayed clear of the Covid angle.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,323 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita


    Thats it. The mob think the end justifies the means.

    Even go back to the OP of this thread. "whats his medical exemption"?

    52 pages later everyone is happy that he was booted out because he didn't mention he was in Spain within x amount of time of entering Australia.

    Well done everyone, the big bad bogeyman has been GOTCHA'D.

    Not kicked out for anything covid related (which is the whole point of this yeah?).

    Rather kicked out for not mentioning all his movements. His PCR hasn't been proven as fake.

    They got him, but they got him for all the wrong reasons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,714 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Telling you, it’s simply people salivating because someone famous and successful and talented is getting shafted.

    People hiding behind “rules apply to all” nonsense. World is full of this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    The ire against Australia is a deflection from the fact that all the remaining tennis players complied with the rules and can play. There is only one person who is responsible for this mess and who should be blamed, and that is of course boof-head himself. Double fault - game, set, and match.

    Djokovic is to blame for this whole imbroglio, not Australia. Had he tried to ignore the laws against illegal drugs and tried to smuggle 100g of cocaine in his briefs, he wouldn't be playing and it would be his fault. I would support such a decision, even though I think the war on drugs is more stupid than some of the covid stuff.

    People shouldn't be using this as a pro-anti Covid measures cause célèbre, it's about a country having visa requirements and somone choosing to give the finger to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭MTU


    He should just have got vaccinated like the rest of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    he lied on a visa application. it wasn't a slip of the pen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭sekiro


    I don't really understand the "delighted" and "great news" comments regarding this?

    Was Djokovic particularly disliked or hated before this or does his expulsion open an opportunity for an Irish tennis player to enter or win the tournament?

    As far as I can tell there's a tennis player on the other side of the world who followed a process to get exemption for entry into Australia and he travelled expecting to enter the country. He was denied entry at first but then a court ordered that he be released from detainment and that he not be deported. Then the government took the unusual step of taking the "management reserves the right to refuse entry for any reason" approach, which seems like a very rare occurrence, just so he could actually be deported anyway.

    Why are people are "delighted" about this? I think sportspeople have generally been allowed to travel and get exemptions for most of the pandemic? It's not like we are talking about a murderer or other criminal who is being extradited after a long legal battle. He's a tennis player. Seems like it would have been easy to just let him play?

    Maybe a sad reflection on us that a sportsperson who isn't even Irish being deported from a country on the other side of the world is a "win" for some people?



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  • Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would have very little time for Australians or Australia in general, but this is tremendous news. People who aren’t vaccinated are entitled to their conspiracy theory opinions, but they also put others at risk and need to feel the consequences of their actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,537 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    he lied on his visa application. he thought he was above the rules that applied to everybody else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,714 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Do you have actual proof that he lied?

    you do know what lying is? It’s not just a mistake. It’s deliberately deceiving people.

    He and his team said this was an error made on a form.



  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Barrita




  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭sekiro


    Why would people in Ireland be "delighted" or really happy about that though? Just a case of people enjoying seeing a famous person being brought low?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,714 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Exactly what this is…

    same with any other people of success and influence and power.



  • Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭sekiro




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,903 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Yes, he was disliked by a lot of people who are tennis fans before this. The line judge incident at the US Open, his preachy personal beliefs, and, more recently, the tournament he held that turned into a super spreader event in 2020. More than enough reasons, even if he is an unbelievable tennis player.

    He’s a dickhead but irrespective of that, he doesn’t meet the criteria and lied on his visa application. G’luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,714 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Seriously, did the Australians have the option to use common sense based off all the facts and information. The minister did not have to act here.

    they absolutely did. And they chose to use their sledgehammer here. They were so exasperated that he won his case, that they could not let it go.

    Chap is there 2 weeks or so, ready to go, in the draw, and will be off your territory shortly. But rather than use common sense and common decency, they slammed him to appease the mob.



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