Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

For me I would prefer if the media just treated everyone with distrust and asked the hard questions of everyone be they in government, opposition or what ever. Sick of this pally crap that we get with everything prepared and people just quoting learned lines.

Covid Claire, as I call her, and Pat Kenny need to removed from their positions for their carry on during this. I see Donnelly is now looking for restrictions to go.

Never forget the poor bastard who worked for the HSE, who was hounded out of his job simply for questioning their approach. That was governmental Ireland, essentially saying "we're tyrants, no dissent allowed", and yet there was hardly a peep from any of our supposed betters. It was genuinely scandalous stuff, but it really shows us that a scandal is never a scandal, unless the media class want it to be one.

I can almost hear Stephen Donnelly saying that line "Trust me I'm a politician, I know what I am doing". 😀

He must be getting worried about his Twitter mentions again

I don't think they are being vindicated. The general consensus among media/government etc. seems to be that things have changed RIGHT NOW.

The retrospective vindication will come with the retrospective assessment of the pandemic response and the recognition of all the facets of collateral damage that will come to light over years, and it will probably come long after those who currently hold positions of power and influence have moved out of the reach of any consequence.

It's bittersweet, and the best possible outcome at this stage is a full condemnation of the West's strategy of importing a response from a genocidal authoritarian hellhole and completely abandoning every shred of scholarship in the fields of epidemiology and virology that took account of ethical and cultural considerations, so that it never happens again. Until that happens and it is recognised that abrogating rights by "emergency legislation" is an affront to Western liberal values, any "vindication" is hollow.

Quick question on the Recovery Certs: from what I can see, if you have symptoms of COVID-19 and are aged 4 to 39, you should use antigen tests. Do not book a PCR test.

So if I was in this age bracket and not vaccinated.. but yet recovered from Covid, I cannot get a PCR test to confirm for the cert?! Is this another coercive tactic to avoid young people getting the passes through recovery? Its vaccinate or nothing for a cert? Surely this isnt inline with EU regulations?

Since there are those who would just love the opportunity to call me an idiot who doesn't understand numbers, I can only assume that my reasoning here is accurate and that I have read the quote correctly?

So 58% of patients were not there because of covid. And the remainder includes those not severely sick at all.

Tell me again why I can't use changing rooms in a shop? Or meet new people in a bar? Or even go into a bar at night?

You have been sold a pup lads, and I'm not talking about the pandemic payment.

Seems reasonable enough now to say. But I’m around long enough to remember if you suggested that patients Covid positive in hospital may not be symptomatic, or perhaps symptomatic but receiving treatment that did not impact on length of stay or recovery from presenting problem, you were shot down by multiple posters and occasionally reported.

Had a weeks ban myself and still can’t figure out why.

Also, incidental Covid in direct proportion to the community rate is not correct. HAI was at 20 - 30% in hospital last January so hospital incidental Covid would be expected to be higher than community rate, yes probably on a scale related to community rate but most definitely not in direct proportion. Healthcare settings, particularly residential, are surely the most high-risk settings alongside in-person educational settings.

You've been sold it too lad.