National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

heavydawson · 14-01-2022 6:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118474987#Comment_118474987

I'd seriously consider reaching our to your local TD (or even better opposition TD!) to raise the issue at government level. The fact that it's taking over a year to complete a DA is crazy, and furthermore the DA is marked as "READY TO CONNECT" which likely means NBI have been paid in full for all ribbons in the DA, even though clearly certain areas are still BUILD_IN_PROGRESS

Bass Reeves · 14-01-2022 10:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118475802#Comment_118475802

How do you think they got from not within as asses roar of 60k to magically having 55k homes passed before Christmas

heavydawson · 14-01-2022 11:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118477177#Comment_118477177

Yeah I'm in a different DA and we moved to pre-order on Dec 21st. That said our connection range runs from last December to March, and the DA is still build in progress. The Carrigaline DA has so many red flags though IMHO.

clohamon · 15-01-2022 11:13am

DECC has published a report (apparently for the European Commission) on the first year of the NBP contract which they say ended 31st Jan 2021.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/447ba-national-broadband-plan-state-aid-reports/

Despite being published on 14th Jan 2022 the report seems to have been written in March/April of 2021

The list of reasons for delay (at that time) is below. Most of it is not new.

Areas in which NBI has faced challenges as a result of Covid-19 restrictions and for which NBI has had to mitigate against delays include:

• Mobilisation of key contractors with restrictions on operations

• Contractors’ ability to meet the extensive design requirements has been impeded due to Covid-19 restrictions

• One of NBI’s specialist contractors from the UK has postponed establishing its Irish operations indefinitely

• Supply chain and logistic delays – nationally and internationally from the many suppliers which NBI depends upon

• Delay in the development of IT system processes and software design

• The recruitment of key personnel as NBI and its contractors scale up – including challenges associated with on-boarding and training of people

• Travel restrictions and availability of accommodation for contractors across Ireland

• Access to islands and some buildings such as schools and GAA clubs, which form part of NBI’s delivery of Broadband Connection Points.

NBI continues to face many of these challenges in 2021 particularly due to ongoing level 5 Covid-19 restrictions.

Bass Reeves · 15-01-2022 11:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118478839#Comment_118478839

Load of bull. Builders and other telco's continued there normal work progress. The report is showing why giving the contract to a company with no Telco experience or no presence in Ireland previously was going to struggle. The UK company realised early on that it costs would be higher than it would be paid and pulled out.

cargo · 15-01-2022 10:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470167#Comment_118470167

Hi there I have a GB NBI with VF and I was seeing the same on multiple speed test sites with both a win7 and win10 machine and multiple browsers. I ignored it for a while as there was in fairness a lot of messing about getting it provisioned after install so didn't want to go after VF until I was sure they were sorted at their end.

I went to take a look at it again a week of so ago and speedtest.net prompted me to download their app instead of the browser based test and sure enough on the app based speed test I'm getting around 930/100 or better everytime.

Also do a download from the likes of HEANET's server of an ISO image and keep an eye on the throughput and you'll see what you are pulling. (remember MB/mbs etc when looking at the stats)

bdogg · 17-01-2022 3:09pm

Pre-ordered in November 21... finally got installed today. Blackrock, Dundalk, Co. Louth. Seeing 850 down and 110 up wired and about 650 on wifi download. I wired my router straight into the GPON via Ethernet. Finally! It's been a long road to get here.

Pique · 17-01-2022 11:00pm

I have my underground duct installed today up to the footpath at the side of the house. Awkward existing layout dictates it can go no further. I want to bring fibre in through the back of the house so I have smaller trunking purchased to enable that and will have it prepped with a pull cord before I get the engineer out.

My question is, what should I do at the point the underground duct ends and the small trunking begins? Is there a small above ground or semi above ground box (digger has gone before I thought of this dammit!) that I can get to put there and make the changeover easy? Alternatively I could just leave the ends of the duct and trunking beside each other, pull the fibre and then ducttape the pipes together and bury them but that's not a great approach and water would definitely get in regardless.

I'd prefer a 'utility box' of some kind to keep the ends of the underground duct and overground trunking weatherproof and secure. Suggestions?

Strettie11 · 18-01-2022 12:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118473865#Comment_118473865

I would be very interested to hear how you get on with your local broadband officer. When I contacted the Limerick one last year for assistance he had no idea any area in Limerick had been connected for NBI 😲

Strettie11 · 18-01-2022 1:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456637#Comment_118456637

flipper2009

You will have more than 2 options for a provider. I know of 2 providers who in some areas are not allowing their name to appear on NBI pre order screen if they do not have confidence that Go Live is soon because of the volume of calls they have had to field in other areas of the country due to delays.

I would suggest ringing providers directly to pre order, also push on the installation fee no one in the area I live paid an installation fee despite being quoted one by some providers

heavydawson · 18-01-2022 1:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493855#Comment_118493855

I contacted the Tipperary Broadband officer about 2 specific eircodes being in a different state than the other houses around them as they were new builds (the other houses are all pre-order, but the two newest houses were survey pending). He replied back within a few days including a copy of email he had sent to a contact in NBI. That said, I've heard nothing back since, but perhaps he's heard nothing back from NBI....

flipper2009 · 18-01-2022 9:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118493905#Comment_118493905

I went onto the NBI site again and i have two new providers! So there ar 4 in total now for Gort DPA. I am comparing packages, prices, equipment etc. Some offerings are attractive for the first few months or even a year but then the price sky rockets. I had great hopes for a live date of this spring summer but I'm beginning to think the date will be pushed out.

I'm struggling to work with 3G/4G and expensive satellite.

tipp36 · 19-01-2022 9:17am

ive been following this thread closely the last few weeks as never knew it existed 😂 until I went digging. My DA in Tipperary is in pre order since dec 23rd and all DP installed on poles in my area. I think I’m just going to stick to march date for going live at this stage, better late than never. Just hope it won’t be pushed out again. I’m saying this NBI engineers have been outside my house at the DP 4 times in the last 24 hours whatever that’s about I’ve no idea.

Magnum · 19-01-2022 11:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498173#Comment_118498173

What part of Tipp, I'm outside Tipp Town just off the N24, I've pre ordered with Vodafone with a connection date of March (hopefully)

heavydawson · 19-01-2022 11:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498784#Comment_118498784

Are the DPs up on your road? I'm still waiting for them to be installed where I live and I'm pre-order since Dec 21st.

Magnum · 19-01-2022 11:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498816#Comment_118498816

I'm guessing DP means drop point ? If yes then there are a few put up on the road, not on the pole outside my house but it does have the roll of cable hanging from it ...

tipp36 · 19-01-2022 1:38pm

Just outside golden. They were here again for hours this morning at the DP whatever they were doing didn’t bother asking them about connection date as I’m sure they’ve gotten elsewhere from people and didn’t want to annoy them lol I hope it will go live before march! Im holding out for eir as im getting better deal with them. Update @2pm nbi replied back to my email re connection date they said April now 🙄

Bass Reeves · 19-01-2022 5:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498890#Comment_118498890

DP means Distribution Point as far as I know. It the last point I'm the network before it is distributed to the customer house.

clohamon · 19-01-2022 7:20pm

Small mercies. Our nearest neighbour hasn't even reached the starting line of rural roll-out.

https://committees.parliament.uk/work/1520/dcms-recall-broadband/news/160329/dcms-overreliance-on-commercial-providers-for-national-broadband-perpetuating-uks-great-digital-divide/

In 2020, DCMS accepted that its original plan for delivering nationwide gigabit broadband across the country by 2025 was unachievable and revised that target down to 85% coverage by 2025.

DCMS reports that the proportion of premises in the United Kingdom with access to gigabit broadband leapt from 40% to 57% between May and October 2021 but this is largely due to Virgin Media O2 upgrading its cable network and the Committee says DCMS “has made little tangible progress in delivering internet connectivity beyond that achieved by the private sector”.

DCMS’ goal of full coverage by 2030 “does not cover the very hardest to reach areas, which include around 134,000 premises” and it has no detailed plan in place for reaching communities where it is not commercially viable to do so.

Slates · 19-01-2022 8:27pm

NBI hedge cutting in North Co.Kilkenny over the past few days

Magnum · 19-01-2022 8:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118501000#Comment_118501000

Should there be one outside every house/ pole or is it shared between a few ?

The Cush · 20-01-2022 12:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118502005#Comment_118502005

Shared, each single fibre from the exchange has a maximum split ratio of 1:32

Bass Reeves · 20-01-2022 12:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118503495#Comment_118503495

Yes however because this is a rural designed system the split's can vary. I think they can distribute as few as 2 ports on a DP. It's maybe one of the failures of the system longterm. You will have it designed to provide X amount of ports at a DP, if a new house is build and the DP needs X+1ports you may need to bring fiber a long distance to bring service to that customer. I am not sure if there is much extra capacity in the system design.

SkepticQuark · 20-01-2022 4:01pm

Tipperary DA near Monard and a DP is being installed outside our house today.

heavydawson · 21-01-2022 2:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506409#Comment_118506409

DP's going up outside our house today as well (Cullen side of Monard) in Tipp DA. Maybe they'll actually make the March deadline :-D

Magnum · 21-01-2022 2:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511703#Comment_118511703

Hopefully with any luck...

yurtyaherne · 21-01-2022 2:55pm

I'm on the Dundrum side of Tipperary Town and am down as "Ready to Connect" on the NBI website. I've ordered through Vodafone and have an engineer calling to install in the next 2 weeks

clohamon · 21-01-2022 5:47pm

Meeting Joint Committee on Transport and Communications CR2, LH 2000

Thursday, 27 Jan 13.30

An update on National Broadband Ireland and the National Broadband Plan.

Representatives from National Broadband Ireland (NBI)

amdaley28 · 21-01-2022 6:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118513176#Comment_118513176

I can hardly wait 🙄

johnnyboy08 · 21-01-2022 6:57pm

NBI playing funny buggers in Wexford which was due to go live from Nov 2021-Jan 2022. As of today around Wexford town is still pre-order and at least one surrounding townland has been pushed out to Mar 2022-May 2022.

It's laughable really, I'd reached out to them on Wednesday because we hadn't gone pre-order and the response was still no delays expected.

I've very little confidence in new timeline, go live in May 2022 will make it 2 years since survey on 12 May 2020.

National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

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