Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Even when you disagree with covid certs, exaggerations of long covid and unnecessary restrictions all your enegry as a poster is put into anti-anti-restrictions talking points.

Why is opposing anti-restrictions posters, some of whose arguments you dislike, more important than opposing restrictions which even you yourself regard as excessive?

I think many of my own arguments have been very good, I've shown restraint a lot of the time, and I don't believe the long delays have been vindicated so I don't regret scorning those delays.

For instance the long delay from June to October was meant to be vindicated by an October opening but wasn't and we're still restricted the following January with more delays being put in place.

You can get most of the hospital admissions data here:

ICU and Hospital Admissions - CSO - Central Statistics Office

As raind said, you can cross reference the %'s with that of the population to get a rough idea of the incidental vs. non-incidental and most ICU would be non-incidental.

Omicron will have changed those %'s a lot and will cause a lot of revisionism to start occurring.

I get the feeling that what's happening with Omicron now is what would have happened post vaccine rollout if Delta hadn't emerged and we really had a pandemic of original SARS-COV2 followed by a deadlier Delta pandemic whose effects were mitigated by vaccines.

The NHS seems to have the numbers covered with incidentals going from about 15% with Delta to 33% with Omicron (this image came from the Daily Mail, I'm hoping they used the real NHS data to make it):

Interesting that London has always had a higher (25%) level of incidental cases than other parts of England, wonder is this down to their low vax rate.

Woah back up there

Where is the scholarly literature in the fields of epidemiology, virology or for any of the other fields related to lockdowns prior to March 2020?

I thought you were wholly reliant on ex cathedra pronouncements from experts you deemed worthy, didn't know you were a man for scholarly literature so this should be interesting.

You yourself only became an epidemiologist in April or was it May 2020 I recall when you began your lecture circuit on herd immunity.

Excellent....One must always respect the "Professionals" as they know so much more than the lower classes 😃

Such a clueless post. You should brush up on your history.

The medieval experts. I like it.

Would you have to pay for an antigen test done by a pharmacist for the purpose of getting a Recovery cert? Surely not.

You absolutely would, they are hardly going to do it free, I believe test has to be laboratory confirmed (open to correction), and that's only the half of it, you then need a GP to get the cert .

I see 2500 uploaded positive test results to the new hse system today , these were not included in today's official figures .

The ones for travel do not go to labs and they are eligible for the EU Digital Cert, anything from 30-45 euros..to apply on boots for example you have to upload a pic of your passport.. I'm ringing the chemist tomorrow and will let ye guys know how it works.

I know for recovery Cert HSE have the info already..you just apply 11 days after your positive PCR and get the Cert.. I'll hazard a guess its same wait from the chemist results that they upload for a travel cert..only difference is travel cert was valid for 48-72 hrs or something, recovery is 180days. Should be simple.. although with a cost.

I'm not aware of the doctor requirement, what do they do? What a waste of doctor resources if they have to deal with this aswell.

I wasn't entirely sure of actual cost of official / lab confirmed antigen tests but assumed they weren't free, I suppose GP's would charge standard appointment fee of between €50 to €70 but again, GP dependent

So I guess the docs can't demand a PCR to see people any more so ha!

I just don't see why a visit to the doctor is warranted..you can be asymptomatic, as are most young people...2500 tests are being uploaded, if its to help the hse keep count fair enough, but if those number require a cert it will put needless pressure on GPs

Also the chemist registers the cert..

Can they ever get it right seriously!?

Not asking you directly for an answer here too btw! 😆

Wales announces alert level 0 from the 21st for outdoors and the 28th for indoors, time for Tony to pull the finger out

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/14/wales-reopen-nightclubs-allow-large-crowds-outdoor-events-covid