Prince Andrew in jep?

In any capacity ? I know it’s the queens call but this drastic move has all the signs of Charles and William getting it done now and not having to deal with in a few years.

Ohh, those pesky wimmins are responsible! Terrible what a hussey can make a good man do.

I do feel sorry for the Queen in all this, wasnt Andrew her favourite son, she would want to believe him so removing his Titles must have been a tough decision.

As someone on Twitter said, it's fairly telling that he's being stripped of his titles and stuff now only after the trial was given the go ahead, but before the trial even happens. They know the damage is done. Whatever hope they had of keeping Andy out of the public eye if it was determined the trial couldn't go ahead is gone. Now, he's being thrown under the bus. They'll support him financially, but they've very clearly pushed him out because whether settlement or trial, he's done.

I'd say they'll try settle it before any deposition can happen.

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He won't be happy losing the titles, but sure with a bit of luck he might regain the ability to sweat.

this is a civil case. any diplomatic immunity is irrelevant. there was never any question of public funds being use to fund his defence or pay a settlement.

He was also a full working member of the Royal Family when the alleged offences occurred, and for decades after even with the allegations being public knowledge. It was only when he ran out of road that he's now under the bus. The RF can't wash their hands of it, his actions will always be forever tied to his position and privilege as a member of the RF. Not to mention the photos that were shown during Maxwell's trial of her and Epstein at the Queen's lodge in Balmoral (or one of her other estates, can't remember which), and the numerous events/weddings they were at as his guests.

Epstein/Maxwell would have used their connections to Prince Andrew as a way to form connections to other rich/powerful persons. Again, that's a stink that sticks to the RF no matter how much they push Andrew out.

She had prince Andrew snared like a rabbit facing car headlights by her photo...he was a sitting duck from then on

That photo suggests nothing really untowards him.... Maxwell also in the photo.. now a convicted procurer is the connection that could suggest intent

Prince Andrew: Has sex with trafficked teen provided to him by friends who are revealed to have been trafficking and abusing young girls for several years

Prince Harry: Marries woman some people don't like

bertiebomber: "THESE TWO THINGS ARE THE SAME TO ME!"

does she say that the photo showed an assault?

it is a civil case so it is on the balance of probabilities.

It strengthens her case substantially as she already said Maxwell encouraged her to oblige/persue...no doubting Maxwell was also there.... he's no doubt fully guilty of his association with Maxwell and the consequences that will follow.

After the BBC interview that he thought had gone well (🤣🤣) he'd be better off trying to settle or ignoring it if he can.

He was clearly uncomfortable at times during that relatively soft interview when he had already seen the questions, he'd be unlikely to do better under cross examination.

It was some job by Maitlis.. What was even more astoinishing is that after the interview was over Andrew gave her a bit of a tour of the Palace and he said to her that he was very happy with the way the interview went, he really was that deluded.

Andrew in heaps more trouble now going by reports in todays Telegraph & Guardian. The Telegraph says Giuffres lawyers want to cross examine Princess Beatrice about her birthday party in Pizza Express. They also report she cant remember it (she would have been 11 at the time). Further they want to ask her if she has ever seen her father sweat. Then Andrews assistant is also been lined up for cross examination becasue his phone number was found in Epsteins little black book so they reckon he was a go between for everything Andrew was up to in Epsteins underage brothels. Then on top of all that they are also making noises about wanting to cross examine Prince Charles. Im not sure of what the link there is but the future King of England being cross examined by a New York court would be complete box office and an absolute media circus.

There is serious pressure being cranked up now. No doubt Prince Charles will be raging that he might get dragged into this and Princess Beatrice doesnt seem able to corroborate this Pizza Express story so her testimony would go against her father. It all makes it more likely that Andrew will now choose to ignore the case altogether and suffer a judgement against him in default. That way he doesnt have to publicly apologise and avoids members of the Royal Family being cross examined as well as himself. The whole world will see him as guilty but thats probably his least worst option right now becasue if he defends it he can be found guilty and drag members of the Royal Family into the witness box.

And koo stark staunchly defends him as well as fergie and more than likely Ghislaine Maxwell would do the same