Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I cant put this into scientific terms and I wont pretend to know what I'm talking about. But to me and many others it always looked like this will follow a pattern. And peak will be on January 8 - precisely like last year. To the day.

Not much of a prediction really if one cant put substance behind it, but here we are, January 8.

Which puts a certain light on our efforts to 'manage & curb' this virus. Lockdown, no lockdown, vaccinations no vaccinations, masks no masks, the list goes on -> January 8.

Maybe our own estimation of our ability to influence this thing is somewhat exaggerated?

His exact qoutes:

“Living with Covid He looked to the future of the pandemic and how Ireland will transition as the pandemic continues.The Taoiseach said: “We have to learn to live with it and when I say live with it, I don’t mean going back to pre-2019 as if it never happened.”

”Living with Covid means adapting and being flexible, having a strong annual vaccination programme. We’re looking at vaccine policy now for the next 12 weeks."

I think we will have another bigish drop in positives today. The testing bookings dropped significantly on Thursday in Dublin, they were slightly up yesterday.

14,555 new cases and just over 5K positive antigen tests uploaded.

Those numbers now become completely irrelevant.

PCR testing becomes largely unnecessary now and it's of little value to individuals to be posting their positive antigen tests to a database when only they need act on them themselves.

My estimate would be that 14k cases are maybe 25% of actually number and 5k of positive antigen test are maybe 5-10% of the actual number.

Within a week all we will be hearing from the HSE are hospital and ICU numbers. They are the only metrics that are both accurate and relevant.

Big time. Well the capability needs to remain in case another nasty variant or god forbid something else comes along but emphasis on pcr testing is ending imo. Money can be better spent elsewhere.

My in laws have been psychological damaged by these people. They have hung on every word and have stopped living and become reclusive. Now the only people they will believe that things are getting better and an end is possibly in sight are these same hacks. Pr|cks.

If you do the GNI comparison, Ireland has come through the pandemic as one of the top of the OECD:

National income - Gross national income - OECD Data

UK had an awful time (likely Brexit related), Denmark had growth in 2020 whereas Sweden was flat. Again, this is one of the reasons why everything is being done cautiously, compared to most economies, Ireland has been in rude health. It also means whatever euro zone stimulus is put in place post pandemic, Ireland will be in a great position to take advantage.

(of course, government and budgetary policy affects these numbers greatly as well, maybe the self-committed hari-kari of Brexit by the UK has driven our growth).

Most opinion polls support the current measures and they enjoy opposition support for them, having an election or referendum on them would be pointless, the election would be fought on every other policy and no one has said what the referendum would be on, adding so they can implement passes (that's already there, so why a referendum?) a referendum that they can't use passes when every party already supports them? Why would the Dail ever vote for that, it's a complete waste of time.

No. Post vaccine, procedures and surgeries were being cancelled due to fear of pressure on the system - pressure above what was accepted for the past decade that never materialised, post-vaccine - and because of covid protocols in hospitals.

There is a disproportionate number in hospitals unvaccinated but it is much smaller than reported, and lower here than in other countries that had fewer vaccine and booster uptakes.. and based on our own governments manipulation of that information, I’d expect other countries’ data to be inflated. The hospitals should be coping as they did in 2019 (not good enough and too much pressure on them, but that’s not on Covid post-vaccine).

So you’re stating that the Covid Certs are here to stay? Without any mandate for them? The election occurred before the pandemic. If Covid Certs are intended on staying, they need to go to the people one way or the other. Also your declaration of ‘most people’ supporting them doesn’t wash. They’re completely unscientific & do not stop Covid spreading. Why would people want to accept their participation in society being conditional on a QR code the Government / EU can turn off at any moment.

Again, revisionism, just a few short weeks ago procedures were being cancelled because of pressure on the system, a lot of that pressure coming from unvaccinated patients.

I've no doubt Omicron will change those figures going forward but that doesn't rewrite the past problems, the data is clear as day from the CSO.

I've no doubt we'll have a bunch of people trying to paint things with Omicron are as they were with Delta, that is not the case.

Hopefully ther gone in a few months