Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

God, it’s staggering the amount of men, angry men, who feel personally threatened after the murder of woman.

We can’t talk about the law and order element because the people who are leading the charge to demand that all men should be electronically tagged/under enforced curfew are the very same people who think that Gardai should really be replaced with social workers. They are also the very same people who want unvetted immigrants housed in large groups in every medium sized market town in Ireland.

Soooo….obviously the problem is men and what on earth can be done with them. Isn’t it?

I hadn't heard that particular article and tbh I've been trying to stay away from social media as much as possible the last few days and making a point of not posting on the specific Ashling Murphy threads because emotions on both sides are too heightened. That is one of the most ridiculous suggestions I've heard but I, like many others, don't know what the solution is or even when to start. Atrocities like this often bring up the most crazed responses on both sides.

It is getting a bit ridiculous in fairness. They were talking about banning pornography as well on newstalk. As if that's going to make any difference.

I don't know why the thread in Current Affairs was closed either. It was a good discussion.

Can I just add that some people like to be offended, even going so far as to find something to be offended about. (I'm not talking about the Ashling Murphy case here, just people in general)

Just this week I was called a cute hoor on a thread and I thanked the comment, I was actually going to post in that thread that it was actually refreshing to hear such a comment as I couldn't remember the last time I heard it and I took it as a term of endearment (as is usually said as) but didn't want to derail the thread. However I'm sure there are some people who would pick that comment apart in order to be offended. Heck I'd probably be lambasted for calling myself a feminist and not being offended by it!

Who’s demanding that all men are tagged or be placed under a curfew?

Its nonsensical posts like this that gets genuine debate shut down.

Lads, relax. It’s not going to happen. There’s not going to be licences for male socialising, male curfews or anything else. You don’t have to take every brain fart or click-bait comment seriously, even if it’s broadcast on RTE.

Talk to the actual women in your actual life. Are any of them calling for any of these measures?

I went to a vigil for Ashling last night, because I had a family member killed a few years ago in a very high-profile situation (not through violence) and the massive outpouring of public grief that resulted helped the family. I chatted very normally to a few women I know there, in the dark. Normal conversations. Walked among hundreds of others. I wasn’t hand-bagged, maced, rape-whistled or castrated by a mob of feminazis. All it was, was a very friendly family atmosphere, candles, some traditional musicians and a minute’s silence.

Yiz need to learn the difference between a provocative tweet and a Constitutional Amendment. Its not good for the blood-pressure thinking you’re a victim all the time.

Sam McConkey on RTÉ radio this morning calling for all young men to only be allowed to socialise once they’ve had 12 lessons in how to behave in public similar to the 12 driving lessons. You obviously don’t have a Twitter account. Electronic tagging for all men is still popular but the curfew idea suffered a bit of a death when it was pointed out that it would be difficult to have a 999 service if men weren’t allowed out after dark.

Wait until the debate about a colour or black and white licence starts!

This is so bad that previously I'd have assumed the OP was trolling/lying but barely anything is surprising anymore.

Race and gender are protected grounds in equality legislation

He should be nailed over this - somebody save the podcast before it "disappears". He'd be in serious trouble if he made that comment about Travellers or Muslims (also protected grounds)

I listened to the show, Allison o Connor asked Brendan for his opinion. Brendan gave an answer I wasn’t expecting from him. He basically said he and his friends treat women with respect already so wasn’t sure how to respond. I don’t think Allison liked his response. But Brendan’s response is the case for the majority of men in Ireland I’m sure, the issue is with the minority and work needs to be done there for sure. But how exactly is the question.

Sams idea is unlikely to gain much traction. It’s an insult to decent men out there. Although I’d forgive him as he is just trying to offer suggestions to a very difficult problem when the spotlight is being turned on men for answers.

It's at times like this that male only golf clubs were a great idea to get away from it all.

When it became known that a woman had been murdered but not by who or in what circumstances, there were immediate calls for "new legislation".

On the surface of things it makes no sense.

People were being murdered in the 13th century so why is this "new legislation" only arriving in 2022?

What's proposed is an increase in bureaucratic control over movement, behaviour and more digital surveillance.

Funny how a pandemic, climate variance and lethal violence all lead to the same solution - the deletion of personal freedom.

Also why is Sam McConkey now everywhere, for instance he was involved in a Presbyterian church controversy and now he comments on criminal justice issues. I thought virologists were medical micro-specialists.

I'm noticing exactly the same around these boards this last few days.

While the comments in question are way off base and hardly representative, why exactly are men feeling threathend when women articulate their concerns ?

Why the backlash from some men ?

What the hell is triggering you ?

His profession, and those with similar ideas, more or less suggested the best course for how you live your life, and what's safe for you to do, for almost 2 years now. That's for another discussion.

It's not just trolls saying this stuff, lots of intelligent women are being influenced by the argument that all men are responsible for all women feeling unsafe.

Ironically, the most chauvinistic, crude and immature men are by far the most successful with the opposite sex.

That's something I've observed over the past few decades socialising, and I've thought it very ironic during recent messaging about men needing to call out other men.