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The Expanse (Amazon) [** Spoilers **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    Good video - and ye damn that fight was impressive - in and out fast and brutal. Didn't notice the details of the PDC cone shape area of effects there as well ha.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    About to take the plunge and watch Season 6…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Evade


    Probably ended about as well as it could have. I was a bit disappointed about the solution to the final showdown but it had been hinted at.

    I'll watch it again tomorrow when I'm not half asleep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Keep watching the credits until the end. The ring glows red and the Laconian ship looks like it's there. I don't know why they would bother with that if there aren't some plans to do the final three books, in some form.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭Relikk


    So much for the episode reportedly being 75 minutes (it was only 60), but it was a satisfying conclusion, nonetheless.



  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    Yeah, just at that moment the music goes all dramatic too





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Like it could just be them leaving it open ended in anticipation of potential future seasons, but they dropped so many breadcrumbs throughout the episode I find it hard to imagine that there isn't some plan to move the show forward. I'll be disappointed if they don't, but I think they did a pretty great job wrapping up the six seasons as it is.



  • Posts: 8,385 [Deleted User]


    I really don't want this show to be over, knowing how much more there is of the material just there for the adapting



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Gah, so many posts!

    I'm torn; part of me wants to jump straight into the last episode, the other wants to wait - 'cos once it's watched, that's it. Life is hard 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,214 ✭✭✭Talisman


    My internet connection was down this morning! 🤬

    I don't want to watch it on the phone so I will have to find some quiet time later.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Not a fan of holdens' plan at the end with the....

    ....switcharoo, the book is different but the end up at the same place kind of ( due to TV character changes) but the way the TV did it they added an extra step that makes it less realistic to succeed. Even if Avasarala didn't sink it, there's still Mars or any new politician at the first sign of trouble or disagreement.




  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    Well I was satisfied with that episode, I felt they stayed true to the book while leaving the door open for a return in the future to continue the story. We know the potential is there for that so it's an end rather than the end as far as I'm concerned, it just depends on who's willing to get the wallet out to fund future production.

    Now on to book 9, i'd been holding off so that I'd have something to scratch that itch once the show wound up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Acosta


    I really want to see Cara Gee in loads of things after this.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Her permanent scowl and look of disdain took a while to sit with me, but damn if Drummer/Cara Gee didn't kind become co-lead by sheer force of will. Wouldn't be surprised if she started popping up in VOD actioners, be it lead or as second banana.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,214 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Avarasala to James Holden:

    You're such a f*cking optimist. It's a miracle you have lived this long.

    Chrissie got the best line in the episode. 😂

    And I'm delighted that the character survived for a potential future showdown with Laconia.



  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭saneman


    Interesting list of names in the pods they launched, i recognised the ones from Aliens as they reported in but there were a lot more nods to other scifi when i watched it back afterwards.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Enjoyable finale. Some of the sfx I found was a bit dodgy and disappointed that drummers contribution to the fight was over so quickly. Felt rushed. Also still confused on whether Amos was into Peaches or Bobby or both. He's an enigma



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Evade


    He could be embracing the Belter way or the Mormon way



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,296 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Straight away I noticed Hick,Hudson and Ripley (also now see Vasquez) when watching but wow that picture is class.

    I see Star Trek (Will Riker), Mass Effect (Colonel Sheppard), Dune (Duncan Idaho), Star Gate (Jack O'Neil), Star Wars (Gen. Ackbar), Blade Runner (Richard Deckard), Terminator (Sarah Connor), Battlestar Galactica (Kara Thrace: Starbuck) and Starship Troopers (Johnny Rico)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,296 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The Expanse game coming out is based around Drummer.

    As for Cara Gee she reminds me of Kathryn Winnick in the sense that she should really just go for her characters amazing look in real life



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    amazon get the cash out and give us a Drummer movie… she is such a strong character …….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    How do I play this expanse game ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,296 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not out yet. It's one of those Telltale games like Walking Dead



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,214 ✭✭✭Talisman


    I knew Bravo team were fodder when I saw the motley group from Aliens in the centre of the list of names.

    There were a few names listed that I didn't know the references to.

    ALPHA:

    Bobby Draper - The Expanse

    Gial Ackbar - Star Wars Return of the Jedi

    Douglas Quaid - Total Recall

    David Bowman - 2001 A Space Odyssey

    Commander Shepard - Mass Effect video game

    Amos Burton - The Expanse

    Duncan Idaho - Dune

    Alex Rogan - The Last Starfighter

    Jason Nesmith - Galaxy Quest

    Edward Buck - Halo video game


    BRAVO:

    K Garrity - ??

    Ellen Ripley - Alien

    Dwayne Hicks - Aliens

    Joe Cooper - Interstellar

    John Anderton - Minority Report

    H Ochai - ??

    Jenette Vasquez - Aliens

    William Hudson - Aiens

    Rick Deckard - Blade Runner

    Jack O'Neil - Stargate


    CHARLIE:

    R Levine - ??

    Lucky Starr (?) - Asimov books

    Louise Banks - Arrival

    Kevin Flynn - Tron

    Roy Neary - Close Encounters of the Third Kind

    Johnny Rico - Starship Troopers

    Kara Thrace (Starbuck) - Battlestar Galactica

    Sarah Connor - Terminator

    Ryan Stone - Gravity

    Will Riker - Star Trek The Next Generation

    No Josh Whedon references which I found surprising, maybe they're not fans but Jayne Cobb and River Tam are exactly the kind of people you would want on such a mission.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,296 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ochai and Levine are original characters who were named in the script because Bobbi talks to them and Garrity is a sci-fi writer according to the sfx team. Surprised too by the lack of Firefly as the two crews seem so similar at times



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    A bit underwhelmed with the finale but probably as good as they could make it under the circumstances. And there is the fact that it's always difficult for tv content to reach the level of depth that a good book has.

    Overall all my favourite book characters were my favourite tv characters. Casting for this was brilliant. Avazarala, Miller, Drummer/Pa, Ashford, Bobby, Amos are all fantastic.

    Which is huge. So I'm happy enough even though it didnt blow me away.

    Plus it always feels different when watched in one go. Binged some series then waited for the next, binged that then waited for the next which I watched weekly. Throw in the book releases during that time so there is some disjointment in my experience and I will certainly rewatch it all again in one go.

    The series is probably better than I give it credit for right now.

    Also amazing to think that the best (if they actually do it) is yet to come.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I'm sure this has been noticed by lots of people, but I'm watching the last episode as we speak and had to pause and look at the hilarious screen of easter eggs and references in the strike team names on the Roci display.

    Apologies, I see this has been posted already.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I didn't notice while watching but that was cool ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    I'm the same. Was happy enough. Decent wrap up.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,645 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Loved the final episode, having read the books I knew what was coming, it was a little to short, over all, but what was there was amazing.

    My god, but Shohreh Aghdashloo is magnificent, just... wow!

    And, ffs, come on with season 7 already!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Acosta


    It was a fine last episode and I enjoyed it, but an hour wasn't long enough. It really needed to be a feature length episode. To be fair to the producers, it looks like they did their very best with the resources Amazon were willing to give them.

    And thank you to the long term posters on this thread. I only give this a go when at a loose end during one of the lockdowns based on reading this thread. It was definitely worth the watch. Excellent show. I will hope for more. Maybe a few specials will come down the line, who knows..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    It cant be over.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,296 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I'm really happy they went with Duarte fking Marco over. Would have hated if he had gotten a secret last minute mega ship.

    Also Marco's speech at the end was great. It was clear he was demoralized himself and faking it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Full_Circle_81


    The writers/producers of the show must be fairly confident that they'll eventually get another season/show if they went so far as to film prologues for every episode that have no resolution (taking valuable time from an already shortened season!).

    What was even more frustrating, was that the prologue stuff actually piqued my curiosity and I found quite a few of the scenes very affecting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    I feel like there is more expanse coming…. But how ? Amazon have cut the cord… it’s over ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I think regardless whether the production team thinks there is a chance for more or not they had to make the best of it. And make it work either way. And I think they achieved that.

    If thats the real end its not a bad one and if it does continues at some point, better again. The storyline is still fully intact. And if it takes a couple of years to be picked up again that wont hurt either.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Arguably, if it takes a few years for season 7 to happen, then that'd very appropriate. Not too many years mind you 😎



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Finished the final book last week and now the final episode. Altogether great books and TV show.

    Book spoilers

    I do think the final few books will be hard to translate to a tv show with the time jump involved so probably good time to wrap it up. If I'm being honest the whole Laconia story didn't do much for me anyway, really jumped from semi-hard(sorry) sci-fi to straight up fantasy sci-fi



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    Very satisfying finale, pretty amazing job they managed to wrap up 6 seasons this with all loose ends tidied up and clean. I am going to read the last 3 books aha. Of course it could have been longer and less rushed on small amount of stuffs in S6, but overall everything feels like they are intended that way rather than forced to be cut down etc.

    Yes, would love to see more on Drummer's fight but aye that side of battle served its purpose while giving Amos+Bobbi their last show time. Aye the railguns were actually scary lol. So they put up massive amount of death flags before the last fight - it is actually great tactic at least for me that I worry for all the characters lol - the episode went by so fast. Damn, not many shows left me feel content with sad+happy at the same time (last time it was Breaking Bad).

    What a show. Bravo to these guys who truly made this 5/6-year project closed this way. And ye...hope we wont need to wait 30 years to see S7 lol.

    As naomi+holden at the end said, lets take a break and enjoy the moment for now - from the massive overwhelmingly good review from the book fans over the years, this is truly an amazing project with amazing people+production etc.

    Absolutely wouldn't know about the show if I wasnt a fan of AltshiftX youtuber - and ya watched ASX recap right after that, it was a very good friday evening aha:




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,811 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Did They run out of money or were the special effects bit off the finale?


    I enjoyed it overall, but there's totally another story to be told and I've a feeling it still might be.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Watched the final episode on Friday. Not a fan of the books and wasn't convinced about the show after season 1 but then really got into it. Tbh this season could have done with more time but overall it was ended well whilst leaving the door open for more. I hope Amazon rethink their support or someone else picks up a 7th season or they make some stand alone feature length films with the same cast. Cara Gee was the standout actor for me as Drummond.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well if that's all we're going to get, it was a solid, punchy finish, even if it was a little rushed (but such as it was always to be with only 6 episodes to do it). They definitely went out with a helluva firefight befitting a finale; while the small change with Filip surprised, slightly undercutting the emotional decision made by others. Particularly as no real time was given to the fallout between the battle's final bullet to the negotiations.

    I'm still hoping all that Laconia stuff was produced, knowing there's something coming down the tracks. I refuse to believe the production was that over eager.

    Overall? Best sci-fi series since the BSG reboot, hands down. It was quite the journey across 3 networks and one actual cancellation, but fair play to those in charge that they never compromised on the vision, direction or execution.

    I thought they were as good as usual; the compositing during the dropship attack wasn't great, and I think it was cos of the bold colours of the ring space, making the joins more obvious than the usual blacks and dark shades of normal space.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There was a guy staring at some kind of ship in the sky looking really angry. Without spoiling the books, what was that all about?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,175 ✭✭✭screamer


    That ending was like a half tied bow on a present- it did it’s job just about but could’ve been better. I can’t believe there’s no more. Too much time on that story on Laconia planet to just do nothing with it, and peaches storyline…. Why even include that issue in the finale….. anyways, I’ll miss the expanse now it’s done, I really enjoyed it, but I do think the first season offered a lot more potential than the show delivered. Anyways time to find a new series to watch…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Evade


    Not a book reader but I did accidentally read too far on a wiki. He's the leader of the Martians that traded MCRN ships to Marco and settled on a planet through a ring, Laconia. The thing in the sky is an alien factory, where the giant railguns were built.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    That was Duarte, we met him already as the leader or Laconia, while seen later refusing Marco's request for more ships later in that Episode. He wasn't not angry, he wa excited cos the the orbiting ship yards were waking up.

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