Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

Tone deaf or, perhaps, hearing how unpopular they are loud and clear and getting the excuses in early. I'd say he actually expects tax paid police for a presidential level security detail for his wife reduced to pap walks in California. Same fella who moaned about Charles cutting him off and having to dip into his own millions during a pandemic. They are the perma-complaining gift that keeps on giving. The actual heirs can literally walk down the street in London with a single bodyguard with absolutely no problems.

No RPO = No UK visits.

Translation: We've been completely frozen out but, in the interests of our PR, we want to play it off as really wanting our kids to appreciate UK culture in a safe environment but we got rebuffed by the dastardly government. Pulling at the heart strings again and now their kids are victims as well. Ffs.

To be fair he wants to pay for it - he says that the police have access to intelligence that a private security firm wouldn’t have.

I can kind of see his point, but the home office can’t set a precedent of the police service being for hire by ex royals/celebrities. He made his bed on this one.

I don’t know, this was apparently the reason given by Harry. Maybe he’s thinking about threats due to his service in Afghanistan.

I think they do need protection in UK but from haters of them, who they both created by their own doing...

It’s probably a bit of a shock having to wait at traffic lights, probably flagged through for most of his life.

Thank you for your concern but I read enough...

Where did I say they are the only people? But they created much more enemies unnecessarily hence the topic of this thread starting with Oprah's interview...

I am sure Harry knows that security is given based on a risk assessment by the Home Office, that the Royals don't dictate what level of personal police protection they receive. Obviously the Queen and Charles have 24/7 protection but they could pay for additional private security which is what rank and filers like Harry can also do. I'm sure this is what the likes of Andy is getting as a non-working embarrassment. You can't buy private police security but the likes of football clubs and supermarkets can pay for it because the police they are paying for are policing thousands of people in such circumstances. If the police could be bought for protecting a family, which is what Harry is deceptively implying, then you'd have every Sheikh, Dick and Harry using them. A listers are capable of using private security to travel worldwide. They are capable of doing it discreetly. The reality is that the optics for an egotistical Harry is that a fleet of high end vehicles swanning them around (such as their faux Royal tour in NY) is much better than a VW mini-van which was what Harry used for airport transfer after the Diana statue unveiling. The ego bruising must have rankled. Ultimately, their visiting the UK shouldn't even be a dilemma as why would he want to return to engage in Jubilee celebrations of an institution in the first place which caused him genetic pain and under which his wife became suicidal. The problem for them is that they need the association of Royalty as their unique selling point. What he is trying to do here is invoke sympathy and play the victim (again). He's imploring the types who don't read beyond the headlines and the deranged sussex “sugars” to think that his toxic (and racist) family won't stump up to protect him and his young family, he is, like Meghan, tugging at our heart strings because now poor little Lilibet won't ever meet her namesake. The hope being that such manipulations actually gain traction and the Bank of Dad gives them a royal bail out to cut off the PR backlash/quell potential discord in the Jubilee year. It's similar to implying Archie didn't get a Prince title because of racism i.e. that everyday Americans (their target audience) would not be up to speed on the actual protocol and thus the getting denied a title because of his potential skin color becomes more impactful. It's the same manipulation at play with the protocol regarding security i.e. it's not the Royals dictating it but many would not understand the machinations involved.

He was born into the risk but he is the 6th in line to the throne. The sooner he accepts his irrelevance regarding that then all the better for his mental health and ego. Others born into the same risk don't seem to be as vocal about it. I am convinced that, assuming they are actually wanted, that they would be able to visit incognito. I'm sure that any such invitations would have been rebuffed if no photos were allowed which they need to flaunt back in the US. The reality is that they've understandably been cold shouldered and it's desperation stations now because even starting off a life of financial independence with millions in inheritance to hand then when there is no income coming in to maintain a millionaire lifestyle then that cash can get dissipated frighteningly quickly in California.

 I'm sure this is what the likes of Andy is getting as a non-working embarrassment

Nope Scotland Yard still looks after the bould Andy.

The reality is that they've understandably been cold shouldered and it's desperation stations now because even starting off a life of financial independence with millions in inheritance to hand then when there is no income coming in to maintain a millionaire lifestyle then that cash can get dissipated frighteningly quickly in California.

Apart from the reported 120 million dollar 5 year streaming deal.

I wonder do they really need a 'get out of jail' card at this stage? Quite the opposite fmpov: everybody in the UK would be shocked if they even show intents of showing up at the jubilee.

I think Harry wants to make sure he can rely on the protection he feels he needs whenever he wants to visit, be it him feeling homesick or showing his kids his (their) home country. All pure selfish, surprise, surprise.

So there is income coming in?

Glad we sorted that so.