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1883 - Paramount+ US Pace (***Spoilers***) Yellowstone prequel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Ho Yeah! That's Taylor Sheridan for sure!



  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭pjcb


    how many will die of dysentery?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Another beautifully filmed Taylor Sheridan show it just looks stunning showing off the wilds of America and with strong scenes of violence of the times it is set.

    The opening double episode sets up the settling of wild west America just after the civil war.


    Nice surprising guest cameos from Tom Hanks and Billy Bob Thornton as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭moby2101


    EPIC


    what an opening 2 episodes. Raw and intense, the cameos will continue ,some serious A listers have been signed up to appear.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,576 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    It set new records for Paramount+ with its premiere on Sunday night posting numbers for it's debut that were double any previous premiere in the history of the streaming network



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    1: Well, that's some raw feeling wild west! Solid opener.

    Then for the story, like..

    the opening showed her during the attack and getting hit by the arrow, the other woman getting scalped!

    Yeah, I don't think a lot of these folks are gonna make this trip like the pinkerton says (can't believe I know pinkerton as a word already.. thanks Ripper Street! and I think one or two other places)


    anyway, so now she's narrating.. I assume she survives this attack. Not sure the father is dead there. It's just a bit wierd to have started there and then be hearing he narrating. I'm guessing it'll tie together.


    So, they are starting in Texas.. going to Oregon which is North West but I'm guessing they end up in Montana for a Yellowstone tie in.. so they'll end up going less West for some reason or maybe hear about Montana on the way to Oregon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    2: Me at the start of this episode - They're using that grim dark changing-scenes noises from the yellowstone show, I'm not sure it fits

    Me at the end of this episode - Yeah no, that's fine.. as you were.

    f**kin hell


    Cool cameos. Especially the first shorter one.

    Not sure if Hanks will show up again but seeing more of that side would probably be cool.


    Anyway, story wise, things are moving along. All I can guess really is

    that they'll likely end up somewhere North by Northwest (pun not intended). Hard to know who could be trusted, who could survive, shur it all feels like it's up in the air for everyone. Maybe the core family father-mother-daughter-and-son have a better chance for being main characters but who knows.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    03: Maybe I'm seeing too much but it felt like a little tie-in with the latest Yellowstone in this one.

    When the mother talked about it not being fair on the daughter.. and then I remembered John Dutton in Yellowstone saying about their being No such thing as fair.


    Right anyway,

    I guess she's got her eyes set on this cowboy

    Aside from that, I think the noticeable thing I spotted was how the father kinda reminds me of Rip from Yellowstone a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    Seems strange that they’ve gone to the trouble of the women having armpit hair, yet they overlooked everyone having perfect teeth and the girl having very obviously bleached/dyed hair



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Yeah I thought about that. Everyone has great teeth. I guessed it was a trade off the show decided in order to allow for romancing later on 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,213 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Can't find a thread fir this show.its from the Yellowstone universe, yes there's a Dutton in it.


    Good cast with Tim McGraw, Same Elliott and Faith Hill. I believe Billy Bob Thornton is in it as well but he wasn't in the first episode.

    Watched the first episode and was impressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,569 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Watched the first 3 episodes and its very good so far.

    Really well made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    4: Ah Beethoven. Never had much interest in the happy ones..

    Show bedding down now. More into the journey than a bunch of shoot-em-up events.

    Second she started playing Beethoven.. a whole bunch of uh-ohs started going off in my head. I think it reached a peak of wondering .. more doubting but wondering all the same.. if something was going to happen to the mother.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It's beauitfully filmed and looks stunning and does show the burtality of a wagon trail.

    I would however say if it was a bit more Deadwood dirty and gritty I think we would see a closer look at what it might have been like.

    The pinao playing as they crossed the river so so haunting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    5: Well...

    That .. yeah.

    I mean .. yeah.

    Red Flags with them finding the campfire and spotting the six horses earlier on..

    but like.. ALL THE RED FLAGS when the word Love started getting thrown around all over the place and everything started going so well... I was just like.. who's gonna die.. can't be either of the Women, they were in the Prologue. Certainly explains why the cowboy wasn't there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Ah man I know it was telegraphed for the whole episode but that was still a shock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,569 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    It was way too obvious , could see it happening a mile away.


    Could they not have waited for another episode or two.



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    She'll be pregnant with a son who will have the Dutton surname and be the ancestor of Yellowstone Dutton's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    I believe her brother may be John’s great grandfather.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    Although having watched the episode last night.

    There’s a flash back to 188x in season 4 of Yellowstone where we see John Dutton with his son James (the grandfather who established Yellowstone) and another boy, Spencer who’s younger.

    We haven’t seen Elsa in any of the flashbacks. In the opening of 1883, we see her take an arrow to the stomach, and she hasn’t featured in any flashbacks, (neither has Margret), it’s possible she’s dead and James is raising her son by that point although his Son John is still the grandfather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    6: So, I think they are moving more Northwards than West. Rolling along into

    Indian Territory. At the start they mentioned Oklahoma Terroritories so I went checkin for a map from around 1883 and the results came back with Oklamhoma up at the top of Texas but at the time it was labelled as Indian Territory.. so that explains Elsa saying Indian Territory at the end.

    Leavin the river crossing to next episode.. hrmmm.. I dunno. They hardly want to kill off another bunch of settlers.. they seemed to be setting it up to keep it as safe as they could



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    So I guess I was wrong about Spencer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Watched the first two episodes on Sunday. One of the most enjoyable tv shows in recent times imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,196 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I think the worst bit was her using the same "pretty" line on the new fella that the dead fella used on her back at the start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    7: Well well well, look who it is! 🙂

    Mr Taylor Sheridan his self.


    Down to two wagons.. yeeshhh.. but heaps of horses and .. I think.. most of the cows.

    They'll hardly turn back. I dunno.

    I think this new love interest.. Sam .. seems to be a possible future ally. Maybe him and others are a turn-up to save the day for the scene at the very start of the season.


    There at the end

    That dude with a shotgun pointing at him.. blood pouring outta his wound and he all like.. gimme yah horse. What an idiot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Well the handsome native american.

    She is taking to this whole kissing thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Tis a bit Schmaltzy McHokey but while I don't watch 'Yellowstone' I'm really enjoying '1883'.

    Taylor Sheridan could become the present-day version of Stephen J. Cannell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    8: Right, I had to look it up. Ben Richardson (IMDB) co-directed that episode with Taylor Sheridan. He has a mountain of experience as a Cinematographer and has worked on many Sheridan projects before. I just.. I just had to look it up. Some very impressive scenes and set pieces with the scenery, the focus on peoples faces, the shot of the moon!, the galaxy above during one of the evening scenes! The dude was just let rip and well.. what a delivery!


    The story itself felt like it was setting up the pieces for the next .. phase? .. maybe season?

    There's two episodes left this season.. and well..

    Someone falling in love... no one dying.. everything on the up.. I'm pretty sure I saw smiles and happiness..

    So.. obviously in a Sheridan project.. this seems very ominous!

    Feels like maybe it's getting close to that opening scene in the season. Some reason to change course from Oregon to Montana

    So yeah.. let's see where this goes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,427 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    yeah the whole native american segue reeked of revisionism. I just don't believe they would allow a young woman to hang around with them. In contrast Deadwood had their characters be fearful and horrible to indians, which was probably more realistic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,196 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I'm wondering how come Elsa is the only one in the family that has decided to have a Southern drawl? Perhaps she was adopted from a family that didn't want a nymphomaniac for a daughter? 😲

    Also, in the opening sequence of the first episode, I seem to remember that she was wearing a dress, and she got out of that habit a few episodes ago. Like "Jess" in The Fast Show of long ago, "Today I'll be mostly wearin' pants".🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭markw7


    So the general consensus here is - started well enough but becoming boring/unrealistic?

    That's another bag of shite from Sheridan so. Christ how did he go from Sicario, Hell or High Water and Wind River to Yellowstone, Mayor of Kingstown and now this.

    Think the lad is more suited to movies or maybe shouldn't take on so much work as his writing is now kack.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    is that it ?

    8 episodes ?

    Ella really fell for anyone within arms reach...

    The transformation of Indians into civilised helpers of the 'white man' is a bit of a stretch .....

    Had some good moments, but the transformation of her from a beautiful girl into a free woman and the indians was annoying.

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,196 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    There are 10 episodes according to IMDB, so the fun and frolics aren't over yet 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88,576 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Paramount Plus has ordered more episodes



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    Paramount just commissioned 1932


    personally I’d like to see more of 1883 as well. Although it’s been renewed, I hope it’s not just a limited run series

    https://www.tvfanatic.com/2022/02/1883-renewed-as-paramount-plus-orders-1932-to-continue-the-dutto/?fbclid=IwAR03eFxn0eud1BSWEAiurv9GhLC-PaHkQW-Hvhs0GU_XRdkfvvvceN5XqzY

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    At 66 YO in the old west???

    Thats a rough ride by anyone’s standards, but I highly expect her to be long dead by then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    lol, Taylor Sheridan being all like: I could make a multiverse and time travel.. OR.. I could just cover every single event through all time


    .. which.. to be fair.. sounds ok



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Sheridan puts em through a Cowboy Camp..


    I swear this started looking like an ad for Cowboy Camp.. but then it just ended without being an ad

    I guess fair warning anyone who gets their bonnets in twists about it.. there's Women from the cast in this video:

    Behind-the-Scenes of Cowboy Camp | 1883 | Paramount+




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Well now the cliffhanger to episode 1 played out in this weeks episode and that leaves just one more left this season.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    So now we know how they end up in Montana instead of Oregon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭greenspurs


    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    All laughing and joking aside I think I might shed a tear if it does happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Tell that to Ned Stark. Wouldn't surprise me if we are done with 1883 and the next time we see them will be 1932 without Lightning with the Yellow Hair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭OU812


    He may have written a problem for himself, by calling them 1883 & 1932, we can’t have time jumps. In theory, everything has to happen within that year.

    Elsa said in episode 9 that it was only September, so unless each season (season 2 included), is named successively, it’s going to be a two season run.


    He should have gone with

    Yellowstone: 1800s

    Yellowstone: 1900s

    which would have allowed for multiple time jumps within each series.

    John Dutton (III) was born in 1955, the new series will focus on his father born in 1910 (son of 5yo John the first from 1883).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    9: Well.. they ain't goin to Oregon. That all explained the opening scenes of the show. I think at the end there

    I counted maybe 20 left altogether.

    First mention of Yellowstone and Associations to do with the law around there too



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,070 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Her droning on, dispensing her wisdom is a real drag. My missus went off this 4/5 episodes ago, I’m glad its nearly over too. Started off very well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,178 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Overall I enjoyed the season as a whole and I thnk they should leave it at that now no need for a second season.

    We saw how they got to the ranch and that the others made it to Oregon and two of the main cast have gone to heaven while all the others have found their Paradise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,182 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Second best Western series I've ever seen. Deadwood being the best.



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