Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

But you are disagreeing because you are a man. That’s fairly obvious Walshb and I’m genuinely surprised you are pushing back on it or offended. by it. in the thread Beasty closed, poster Spanish Eyes had an excellent summary on it.

You are not on the receiving end of the Harassment, so you don’t walk in those shoes and have no idea what women experience , so it’s easier to defend/condone it or not see how it can be an issue as it’s not happening to you.

There was a man found dead in a laneway in Donegal aswell and not a dickybird.

The scum that murdered her is culprit number one. Wait until we likely hear how many previous convictions this mentally unstable person or scumbag had. Maybe the state should he locking these dangers to society up, but no. In ireland, you actually have to commit murder first, to receive any meaningful sentence...

What sentences would these out ot touch judges give, if their loved ones were at the receiving end...

There is no doubt about that, streets may be made a bit safer but they will never be totally safe. I have seen on twitter calls from some women that they shouldn't need to feel in danger when out and about at night. Unfortunately both men and women need to take whatever precautions they can to ensure they are as safe as possible. There are some dodgy people out there and even some decent people lose the run of themselves from time to time and get violent. The streets will never be 100% safe.

That's probably a good example to help people understand the sort of monsters that are out there. A very small minority but very dangerous. Who could talk sense into someone like that? I as a man am in no way responsible for men like that guys who would use a blowtorch on a child.

The other issue still stands though, the low level harassment that woman face from their teens up. Something can and should be done about that.

Your wife is not alone. Many women sick and tired of society painting them as persecuted and mistreated. It’s quite insulting to women the narrative and commentary being peddled day in day out.

Here's a novel idea. A man annoys you by whistling or telling you to smile? Don't wait for a man to call him out, do it yourself.

These men aren't the dangerous ones. To generalise (and be very politically incorrect), they tend to be younger lads doing it to impress their friends, poorly educated or from lower socio-economic backgrounds. Most will lose their shıt because they don't expect a woman to stand up to them, they'll get flustered and embarrassed. Yeah, some might shout abuse at you but they won't get physical. Think of how bullies react when someone finally stands up to them. If they're in a car just ignore them, if they don't get a reaction they'll get bored quickly enough.

The really dangerous people of either gender are usually those who appear normal until it's too late, the exception being severe mental/behavioural conditions. Issuing on the spot fines or having every man call out anything that could be interpreted as insulting, demeaning or threatening to anyone, anywhere will achieve the square root of fcuk all in stopping the type of crime that has started this discussion.

Women have been walking in the dark for years. Do you seriously think that one random attack means the risk of being murdered has increased for all women? Has this triggered some latent psychopathy overnight in all men?

And absolutely the wrong person to wheel out at this sensitive time.

If I tell you I don’t want you to shout at me and you insist on shouting at me, that’s.not disagreeing with me, it’s you not listening to me.

When people set personal boundaries, it’s not an agree/disagree topic.

100 percent.

I’m really not sure what the issue is.

If women are saying that they dont want street harassment , then that’s the end of it, there’s not an agree or disagree choice. It’s not getting through to dine people.

Someone said earlier “mad idea, but how about you just mind your own business” and that’s really it summed up.

i used the word shouting but I mean whistling or commenting so apologies if it’s unclear.

Scenario. I don’t know you. I don’t need to tell you I don’t want your whistling /commenting etc. you should have the decency and common sense to recognise this and respect others boundaries and just not do it.

its haduc stuff. if you don’t understand this, isn’t the post about the Fella offering Code of conduct lessons/ etiquette lessons bd if people are unsure of basic social etiquette and skills.