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john Paul Hegarty of cork computers gets 7 years prison for raping his sister

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Not sure. Is all of the information our in the public? Has to be some evidence or admission they are basing the conviction on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Shocking case. Not the first time a minor was raping a sibling or foster sibling.

    Who's to blame and how do you stop this happening in future?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,733 ✭✭✭Allinall


    He's to blame.

    I thought that would be obvious.

    No idea how you stop it happening in future. Better parenting and education would help.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    So he's to blame. Are you saying nothing could have been done in his life up to that point that would have prevented this? There's discussions being had on national tv these days talking about how men need to change.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Yes, he committed horrific sexual acts on his younger sister for years, and tried to shut her up by letting her be bridesmaid at his wedding and downplay everything to police.

    He said that his parents didn’t supervise and left porn magazines around the house. Nothing about him being abused himself.

    Quite bizarre that you think he isn’t to blame here.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,733 ✭✭✭Allinall


    If you read my post, you'll see that I said "He's to blame".

    It's obvious that I didn't say any of the other things in your post.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Oh it's you again twisting my words.

    Clearly what I meant was who's to blame for the end result of a 15 year old raping his sister. I'm asking for the root cause. If the root cause is a 15 year old decided to rape his sister one day, it's making all the conversations about stopping attacks on women because there's no way to stop some attacks.

    Was it lack of education? Access to porn? Bad upbringing? Was it any of these that fcuked him up to commit the despicable acts.



  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    He seemed to live a perfectly normal life while her childhood was troubling. That should tell you everything you need to know.

    Some people are just depraved bastards. This guy appears to be one of them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,533 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    He admitted to sexual activity with the victim. That's why he was convicted. Good enough. 7 years is way to lenient. Should be 20 years until eligible for parole.

    Mad little country we are living in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭AdrianG08


    If that is the case then 7 years is an absolute joke, and he won't even do the full 7 either.

    Out of interest, traditionally who would be the political party in this country who are tough on law and order? Have we ever had any? I'd imagine its a pretty solid mandate to run a campaign on.

    Never any mention of another jail being built, I guess its not sexy with the liberal/social justice warriors



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    convicted rapists or murderers of international renown should have all their details made public but respectable small town Irish “family man” rapists should not? Or is it the case that if your victim happens to be your sister that her wish to have you named and shamed should be ignored?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    He denied rape. Assuming there is no physical evidence in this case, and considering he was legally a child himself through most of the alleged abuse; if those things are true I find this sentence quite harsh.

    I'm not saying it didn't happen, but I would like some proof before someone is found guilty, and not just have a jury rely on emotive testimony. I would like to think a third party was a credible witness.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Of course there was evidence. He was convicted. If there was no evidence it would have been thrown out.



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra




    A harsh sentence?

    IF its true?

    ALLEGED abuse?

    "I'm not saying....but"

    You need to take a good hard long look at your attitudes here. They are frankly disgusting.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    7 fcuking years for raping a child repeatedly over three years, starting when she was 9 and stopping when she was old enough to get pregnant.

    I hope some proper justice is dispensed out to the fcuker in prison.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Well you should know by now that Mrs. O'Bumble is the resident expert on all subject matter on Boards, hehe :-)



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    He's been found guilty. If you are not saying it didnt happen why are you calling it "alleged" abuse?

    It isnt alleged. It happened.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭TP_CM


    I wonder what affect the passage of time has had on his sentence. This stopped when he turned 18 (supposedly). If she came forward at that point, do you think he would have gotten 7 years as an 18 year old? On one hand I can imagine them giving him a harsher sentence, because they wouldn't have known that 3 years was the end of it, and it's believable to think it would have continued. On the other, he had just become an adult, and even very harsh crimes committed by youths (even though they're essentially adults) aren't sentenced in the same way.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The report I read states that the woman told her parents what happened when she was 18 years old, and they covered it up.

    There should be consequences for those who are informed of a crime, and don't report it.

    Link: Cork man jailed for 7 years for raping youngest sister (rte.ie)



  • Registered Users Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Everlong1


    Show me in my post where I said I wanted him hung.

    Meanwhile, here's some links on the legendary Judge Nolan, the rapist's best friend.

    Why Does Judge Martin Nolan Give Lenient Sentences To Sex Offenders — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'

    Lenient sentences deter sex attack reporting (irishexaminer.com)

    Meanwhile, here's what the Dept of Justice, who might reasonably be expected to know a thing or two about these things, had to say a few years ago about the lovely individuals with 50+ convictions walking the streets free and clear.

    Judges too lenient on repeat offenders, says department (irishtimes.com)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,414 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I would have thought so too, which is why I was interested to know what the evidence was, because it is extremely unlikely that there would be physical evidence. The only thing I can think of would be witnesses.

    Nine women on the jury too which makes me wonder about his representation.



  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jesus Christ. Are you actually reading your posts before posting?

    A criminal investigation was carried out, by professional investigators. A file, containing all evidence was sent to the DPP. The DPP assessed the evidence and was satisfied that they had a number of charges to go to court. In court, all evidence was presented to the judge and jury. And thoroughly explained to the jury.

    Are you suggesting that women are somehow not capable of assessing evidence? Would you suggest maybe women should be excluded from juries?



  • Registered Users Posts: 41,072 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    You're now insinuating that a majority of women on a Jury means his defence meant little or nothing.

    The jury found him guilty after a 5 year process of investigation and trial and you are still questioning the whole thing.

    Your posts just get more disgusting. Shame on you.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    It is an interesting question, how do we prevent the development of deviant behavior in men. I know myself as a 15 year old and some of my friends the sexual repression is extreme, from 14-18 are years of intense sexual frustration until you finally manage to figure out a way to have consenting sex with a girl and that usually involves alcohol too. It's a complete mess, there must be a better way to help young lads through that period without developing terrible deviancy. Perhaps we need to be more progressive and encourage them to develop a healthy sex life even at 15 or whatever. Their bodies are certainly driving them to do it. I think a lot of men develop their habits toward women at that age. They can involve control and manipulation because obviously that can be the fastest route from a to b. And socially girls can be seen as currency, to measure the success of a boy, at least in his own head. There's definitely room for more guidance and support in those years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Mike Murdock


    Or maybe he is just part of the 2-3% in any society that has Sociopathic or Psychopathic tendencies?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭TooTired123


    There’s only a few people posting on this thread but one of them thinks that the rapist has been treated very unfairly because his picture with his name and address attached was put in the paper, and this one has decided that their was no evidence and the rapist was clearly lynched by a crowd of women.



  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭dontmindme


    Let's get real here. If a women cries rape the onus will be on the defendant to clear his name, and if he cannot, a jury especially with a majority of women will convict him. In this case we're talking about a teenage boy who now claims as an adult that at the time he had access to pornography and had poor parental supervision. Given the right set of circumstances there isn't a human being alive that isn't capable of rape, murder, and all the rest, and the circumstances surrounding this young man led him to these actions. We keep hearing that we need to have a talk etc. We need to have a talk about male sexual desire as that what this case and all the other sexual harassment cases against females is about. if we don't talk about it it will continue to wreak havoc in our society. There isn't a man alive who is unaware of it's power. Blaming men gets us nowhere.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jesus, this thread has revealed some terrifying views...





  • you taken piss


    mate I was smoking cigs n watching babestation when I was 14 I didn’t ever feel like raping my sister tho like what?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 753 ✭✭✭dontmindme


    I'm happy for you but believe it or not, everyone is not like you. Pornography is the objectification of women. It happens on the daily anywhere you care to look. We're capable of doing anything to something we no longer see as a human being. This has been demonstrated over and over.



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