Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

"Who is this person staring at the ground? Why are they looking at the ground?"

"Who is this person looking at me? Why are they looking at me?"

You can't win.

To answer the question "why do women feel threathened?" Maybe the answer is that the incredibly rare event of something bad happening is amplified tenfold by the media to create a culture of fear.

The simple fact that the death of Aisling Murphy is widely publicised and her funeral is on RTE is a testament to the fact that random murder of young women is incredibly rare. Rare enough that plenty of talking heads have taken the opportunity to push the event into the spotlight and promote their own agenda.

In context, about a dozen people have died in car accidents in the past week. An Irishman is missing in Denmark, and a body was found in an alley in Donegal.

None have garnered more than a story or two in the media.

The usual left-wing opinion slot in the Irish Times has a piece by Louise Crowley of the Bystander Intervention Programme (!!!) in UCC. It's full of the usual "we must do this" and "we must do that" mantras. And she emphatically puts the onus on all men to speak up and act when they witness unacceptable male behaviour.

Of course there is nothing about the practicality of what she is preaching: All men includes me, and am I, as a 76 year old, meant to "call out" the next young thug I see behaving inappropriately? One of the reasons people of my age were taught to abhor any violence against women was because they were "the weaker sex". This of course was nonsense unless one referring only to physical strength. But there are many fit young women who can and should call out bad behaviour (by males and females) in certain circumstances.

It's not just "all men".

Men are in fear, but women, being smaller and physically weaker, and clearly so, are obviously going to have that fear heightened.

Also, men are not sexually assaulted/raped to anywhere near the extent that women are. This element of an attack weighs heavily on the minds of women.

I don't think it's that logical to be comparing violent assaults on males vs females'. There are clear differences.

Agreed

And I believe that a huge problem is when people mention personal safety and responsibility out of nothing but common sense, love and concern, you have people accusing them of victim blaming.

Commentators are terrified to push back. They all want to be seen as so very pro females. I am pro female, pro male, but do not make a big deal out of it.

I find it quite insulting that we are peddling this idea that females need to be cuddled and hugged and wrapped up. And I am betting many females agree

They (media/gov) love to promote the idea that every one is guilty. Or at least every man.

Also Howlin is like the King in 'Henry IV Part Two' (Shakespeare play), giving orders about personal morality.

Is that how democratic/republican governments are meant to speak to the people?

I gave my view on why the comparisons have differences.

Yes, males attack males more often. This has always been the case. These are simply statistics. Fear is something we cannot measure. It is in us all.

Females and males both fear being attacked, but the fear is not the same all the time, due to what I said...

The older I get the more embarrassed I become about the way "feminists" carry on. You do not represent me , and I would be safe in saying the majority of females in Ireland

I feel sorry for the men of Ireland and the label that is being put on them . There is so much wrong with what is being said in the last week that it is hard to know where to begin.

1st of the social media "she was only going for a run ". I dont get this at all. What does it matter what she was doing or where she was going. If some poor girl is murdered at 1am going to the chippers do they put up " she was only going for chips". The poor child was murdered by an evil man (not a normal even run of the day man). Therefore let us focus our anger at this man and not every man we see

one lady on the radio saying she walks the same walk every day for years and the day after the murder of Aishling Murphy she started her walk and saw a man coming towards her so she turned around and went home. Mother of God what are we becoming !

I said this to you yesterday. Your idea of a compliment might be "nice tits", or something in that vein, that's misogynistic and sexist. I also said, if you want to give compliments to people you know, by all means, go ahead and do it.

My point still stands, if there is a large element of people who wont take it well, then don't do it.

You are trying to play down what the street harassment is......because you want to bleat on about, you can't say anything to a woman any more.

Maybe the guy who was giving social lessons (or whatever they were) has a point. Adults should not need to be told how to behave and respect others in public.

There is a "boys will be boys" and its harmless attitude here, when its not that simple or harmless. You are trying to say, all we want to do is give a compliment, when you know full right well what is being discussed. Its been mentioned numerous times, but you want to play it down.

In Ireland when there is a wave of emotion crashing over the country, surging through the media, you know there is going to be legislative change which is highly specific and also controversial (but the people who controvert it can be shouted down as unfeeling/bad).

Savita

Covid

Aisling Murphy

It remains to be seen what this is all about since the media push for 'new legislation' began on day one. I'm guessing this legislation was already broadly decided on beforehand.

The family asked for privacy last week and the media stayed hanging around the whole time and even filming the family. (Now they could have asked for permission but they shouldn't have.)

Similar with the funeral essentially they knew even tough they asked for privacy people would still clog the streets of Tullomore who had no connection to Ashling or the family.

Or even for those who couldn't attend the church that knew her strangers would crash the church live stream.

We had a tragic case in our town before the family had a private funeral, no mass times given, etc and this was clear. Yet people hung around trying to get into the church, media taking pictures, etc. Same people would nearly give you a lecture on boundaries and respect.