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EU Digital/paper! Certs, the Megathread - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭alexonhisown


    recovery cert with pos antigen. Taken from buzz.ie

    ”The HSE says in order to ensure misuse is limited, anyone who wishes to obtain a digital recovery cert will need to get a PCR test or a professionally administered antigen test”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Whocanibe


    I'm the same as you(immunocompromised) I received my extra shot three months ago. I've been expecting a text for a booster, which I don't know yet if I'll take.

    I just got a text that my cert was available, go to gov.ie to claim. I've done that, said it will be sent in the next few days. It will be interesting to see if I'm fully vaccinated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    Is there any information for this, I can see pharmacy's will issue antigen tests for travel for approx 45 euros, but this is valid for 48 hrs or something not the 180 days for a recovery cert and actual private PCR tests are over 100 all websites say this is not suitable for anyone with symptoms or positive anitgen.. surely if you are 4-39 and needing a recovery cert, you shouldn't have to fork out 100 for it ? Very frustrating

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Minier81


    The pcr system has recovered. Thousands of tests available in Dublin tomorrow right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Easy solution

    Get rid of the certs, it's a system which is no longer required to protect people

    It's only there to punish



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  • Registered Users Posts: 441 ✭✭Ms.Sunshine


    I'm on hold for the past half hour for the second time with the 1800 helpline. They put my forname in incorrectly so its urgent . I tried fixing it on their website and it says to phone them so this is torture!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,572 ✭✭✭Canard


    I got the same thing - extremely frustrating. I asked why my certificate would be coming on Jan 24 when my sister who got her booster the same day (later on!) got hers days later. "That's just the date it's coming". I have no expectation that it will come on Jan 24, and I will then rejoin the p0xy hour-long waits to get fobbed off again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Pharmacy emailed me to say my PPS number was incorrect and they couldnt upload my vaccination details etc so sent them the correct one and had the cert emailed the next day. Might we worth following up for people who are wondering where their certs are, i dad one digit wrongly entered for my PPS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    whats the situation with the HSE helpline for issues with your cert? I've tried calling several times after listening to blurb spiels before you can select option to talk to somebody only for it to hang up every-single-time..



  • Registered Users Posts: 64 ✭✭OrlaFS2017


    This happens if you ring the local number. The Freephone number you just get left on hold for hours.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    HSE sent my Dad a text that his new COVID cert was ready and that he needed to go to gov.ie to get it. He got the booster from the GP in December but no proof. I put in his name, birthdate, PPSN, phone and email. Hopefully it will contain everything needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,558 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    you don't need to provide proof. they wouldn't send the text message if they didn't know he had the booster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    Well according to my GP's clinic, they have uploaded the details and they went through without problems. No sign of the cert and I have a feeling it won't arrive by Jan 24. Seems like the people handling the whole cert thing were complete beginners struggling to comprehend the whole concept of a database. There's probably a bunch of people printing out the details from one system while another group of people are typing in data from the prints to another. And they fail to make a connection with the previous vaccinations and new one belonging to one person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Stupid question perhaps. I have a vaccination cert from my original 2 doses. I also got a EU Digital Covid Recovery Cert (got Omicron at Xmas). The latter cert has a 6 month timeframe.

    My question is whether I can use the EU Digital Recovery Cert to go into restaurants/pubs etc?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,558 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Is it possible to have both a vaccination cert and a recovery cert? I got my booster on Dec 17th. I haven't received the cert yet but I did receive a text asking me to apply for the cert on gov.ie. I did that and it said it would be emailed to me in a few days. I also caught covid on Dec 24th (a lovely christmas, thanks for asking) so I should be eligible for a recovery cert as I managed to get a PCR test. Has anybody had both at the same time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Yes . I got both booster updated cert and today a recovery cert . I applied on line yesterday for the recovery cert and got it via e mail this morning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,558 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Now that i am not sure of . I put the booster on the app for now . I haven’t tried the recovery one .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I have the Vax cert and a recent Recovery cert too. Where are you supposed to use the Recovery Cert - will it work in Restaurants etc?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I dont know . I am presuming the recovery one is only useful if you are not boosted ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,793 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Yeah but the vax cert doesn't have an expiry. The recovery one does. It's not very clear really.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    No. Before I could add my triple-vaxxed cert to the app I had to remove my double-vaxxed.


    You could take a screenshot of the first cert, remove it from the app, then add the second cert to the app.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    I had my booster shot at an MVC in November. I had original two shots at GPs. I got the appt for the booster via text without requesting it. I don't remember being asked for my email address at the MVC. I used the portal last week to request the booster cert. Got email from them last night "Your EU Digital Covid Certificate" but it's just the original cert for the first two shots.

    Since I had my booster in November, I've had multiple text messages from the HSE with appointment dates for the booster and reminders telling me to get a booster. It's like there's no record of me having the booster shot in their system. Makes me wonder if I even had the shot. On the day, I didn't even feel the injection and had no side effects (other shots I had mild side effects).

    Anyway, it seems there is no point ringing them because of the long hold times and the Web Chat throws up an error message.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    I'm unvaccinated, I'm hopefully going on holiday's in the summer, will I need the actual booster or can I wait and just be recently double jabbed to travel? I'm hoping the certs will be dropped altogether so I'm waiting to the last minute before being forced to get it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,966 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    from https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/d2e25-eu-digital-covid-certificates-for-booster-vaccines-your-questions-answered/#why-digital-covid-certificates-for-booster-vaccines-are-being-issued-in-ireland

    What to do if you got a text from the HSE saying your Digital COVID Certificate is ready


    “The text from the HSE invites you to apply for your new Digital COVID Certificate online, as there was no email associated with your data. You can apply to have your new certificate sent to your email or issued to you via post…”

    apply online ? Where ? They couldn’t even be arsed sticking in a link or contact….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭AJG


    You can still travel with a PCR (or perhaps an antigen) test certificate (at least within the EU). There's a lot of nonsense online about not being able to travel without a cert but this goes against the EU's freedom of movement principle and they won't discriminate (at least in this instance there's been plenty of other restrictions) against the unvaccinated.

    "The EU Digital COVID Certificate Regulation states that possession of an EU Digital COVID Certificate must not be a precondition for exercising the right to free movement.

    To ensure this, the Commission proposes that persons not in the possession of an EU Digital COVID Certificate should not be prevented from travelling, but could be required to undergo a test for COVID-19 infection prior to or after arrival to reduce the risk of imported infections. In addition, they might be required to undergo quarantine/self-isolation when they arrive from particularly affected areas (dark red)."

    Source: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/QANDA_21_6281

    https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_en

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Wait it out I'd say, hopefully these discriminatory certs will be gone soon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,966 ✭✭✭✭Strumms




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭beachhead


    EU is considering giving the booster a 9 mth validity if all 27 members agree.Chance that.Countries outside the EU(excl US)considering 12 months validity if they can align their systems with the EU and vice versa.Work that out but it's only talk at the mo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭beachhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭leck


    Yeah, you might think so, until like so many of us, they just send you another copy of your original cert (two-shot). Went on web chat to them this afternoon. It said hold time would be 45min so just left it sitting on screen. I finally got an agent an hour and a half later. His answers seemed quite robotic, but it was a real person. It seemed to take him a while to understand what I was asking. Asked me the expected question like name, address, DOB, PPSN, vaccine type ... but also batch number, not sure everyone would have that info to hand.

    There seemed to be no suggestion that he could find a record of me getting a booster shot. How come the system can't link first two doses to booster when given to someone with same PPSN?

    It took the agent 20 mins to get through those basic questions and then he ended with:

    "I have now forwarded your details to the team to be reviewed in order to understand why your cert hasn’t issued yet. The team may require more information from you to complete their review and will contact you for this if necessary. Once your account has been reviewed, your Digital Covid Certificate will be sent via email."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,558 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Received a text about my booster cert on monday and applied for the cert the same day. The new cert arrived in my inbox this morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    Boostered at a GP on 6/1/22. No updated cert received.

    I got through on chat and it was fairly useless and took a long time to get through on chat

    Chat advised that my GP hasn't updated COVAX system that I was boostered and that I am to contact the GP and get them to upload/re-upload it.

    Contacted the GP then who has a blurb before anyone answers phone advising they wont answer any questions on covid certs, but i persisted through and spoke to reception who said they have backlogs and cant confirm or deny whether they have uploaded my information or not, but that they have until 1st Feb 22 to complete it and this information is widely available that they have until this date to complete this



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    I am really curious to know what kind of systems they have in place for this. My GP says they have uploaded the data and that's all they can do. Meanwhile the cert chat person told me the following:

    "Please note, the booster certificate rollout is underway to all citizens who have received a booster vaccination in Ireland. The certificates are being released on a phased basis over a two-week period and will be delivered by email to the email address on your account. Please monitor your email inbox for an email from 'no-reply-dcc@health.gov.ie' and make sure to check your spam and promotions folder. It is expected that all certificates will be delivered by email by Monday 24th January. Please call back if you have not received your certificate by this date."

    About the text messages from HSE to get a booster although you've already received one:

    "The reason for this is the transfer of data between GP and HSE takes time. This is a common problem we have. Once the HSE gets your data they need time to upload it to individual accounts. Once that is done you will stop receiving these text. We need till 24th January to transfer, update data and create certs. Once that is done you should get your cert by 24th January and stop receiving the text."

    What do they use to transfer the data, old shoe laces? I only received the text once so am I to assume the data that GP has sent has possibly finally been transferred to HSE? I don't know where it is sitting but shouldn't it have been uploaded to my account already. How big is this packet of data if it takes ages to get it there? So they should know by now I got my booster but no sign of a cert. Well, they still have five days... 😴

    Edit: Oh I see, it's just a "data quality issue"... https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40787931.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Astartes


    Javid just said they are ending the mandatory QR codes next Thursday, he is leaving it up to businesses etc masks are gone too.

    Proper order. Us next, please.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I got my booster in early Dec from my GP

    The previous 2 were at the Greystones mvc

    The online portal request just sent me my old cert

    Waiting a half hour I got through on the helpline who discovered my gp had uploaded my booster information alright but to a new account and misspelled my name

    The agent merged the accounts and I got a new cert emailed that evening reflecting the booster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    I printed off a hard copy of the booster shot for my mother (she's old school likes a hard copy of everything). Problem I'm having is when I scan the QR using my phones scanner all that pops up is a bunch of computer code.



  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Cookiee


    Use a scanner app desgined for covid certs, the phones regular camera scanner won't work



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,654 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    A heads up for anyone who got vaccinated in a different country and wants to get boosted in Ireland. Its hassle.

    I got vaccinated in Spain but just from a timing perspective with travel, I applied to get my booster in Ireland. HSE needed certain details about my vaccines including batch numbers that isn't contained on my Spanish cert/EU DCC. It became a case of "HSE computer says no".

    Dont get the booster before checking the status of getting the booster cert.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan



    Now this is interesting! I am actually suspecting the same thing happening with my account but the agent I got in touch with regarding the certs wasn't even interested in asking for my personal details to check it out. My name is often misspelled so I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. I don't like that they categorically denied there even was a possibility of two accounts.

    Did you call them or contact them via the chat? I've been hesitant in calling since first the helplines were busy all the time and then I figured it would be much more of a hassle to call them and having to have to spell your name to them on the phone than writing and making sure they got the details correctly. Last time I had to deal with HSE help line, I spent ten minutes trying to get the agent to write down my birth date correctly. I have nothing against foreign work force but there was a bit of a struggle because they didn't seem to understand what I was saying and pretty much laughed at me for asking them to repeat to me what they wrote down. Turns out it was good that I did because they had made several errors. The other reason being that their phone lines are always bad and I struggle to hear what they are saying. Anyway, I'm now considering contacting them again but not sure which route to take, calling or chat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,558 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I'm curious how a misspelled name is causing these issues. Do they not ask for your PPS Number when you get a booster in a GP surgery? they should be matching on that as it is unique. It wasn't always because a wife used to be given her husbands PPS number when she got married but that is long gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    A family member was vaccinated in a non EU country . She rang the helpline and he was really helpful and very understanding . She got a date for a booster within 5 days



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The mis spelled name allowed the gp surgery to use my pps to set up the new account

    If I'd requested the cert via that account it would have came but only with a record of 1 dose instead of 3

    The agent saw it after asking for my doctors name and the surgery address

    It was associated with the same phone number as my mvc jabs

    The agent then merged them and I had my cert later that day once the system saw my original account updated with the 3rd dose

    I got no mvc appointment prior to this for a 3rd dose meaning the system did recognise in some way that I'd got it at the surgery via the use of my pps

    Its just neither of the 2 accounts fulfilled the 3 dose requirement for a new EUDCC untill they were merged



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,558 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    my point was that the record from your GP should have been automatically merged with your earlier vaccine record using the PPSN as a unique identifier. every HSE software system I've worked on has done this.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well you can take it the vaccine passport or vaccine system doesn't, I'm living proof of that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    One of my colleagues got vaccinated in a different EU state. Called up Tuesday last week, gave the dates, batch and vaccine, appointment Thursday, sore arm + cert Friday. So fair play to the HSE.

    If you don't have these details, get the details for initial vaccination, it should have been on the card issued at time of vaccination, call HSE, get booster, alternatively fly home...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    Tried the chat and waited for over an hour for my turn. Just my luck that they happened to answer the chat right when I was otherwise engaged and unable to answer them so they hung up. Just as well because I noticed the agent was the same person I chatted with the last time and who was uninterested in finding out what was the situation with my account. So... back in the line it is and I will continue until they finally look into it.

    Post edited by ShayNanigan on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Waiting on Live Chat for ages. Applied for Recovery Cert last week and still haven't received. Panicking a bit now as I'm flying abroad tomorrow-week. Bricking it that they need to put it through again etc



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