BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

That's the entitlement tho isn't it.. completely blind to even considering this might be a problem, even from a tactical pov, never mind a moral one.

Is he usually filmed wearing a mask? Last dash attempt to look responsible lol all about the optics. Prick.

When is the Sue Gray report out?

Yeah I thought he'd tough it out a bit longer tbh

Perhaps but there comes a point when anchoring yourself to a sinking ship becomes a losing strategy

I'd say they'll see the report long before it's published so there may well be a pre-emptive strike

They are not so much anchoring themselves to a sinking ship as waiting for the opportune moment to torpedo it. They reckon that the contents of the Gray report will further weaken Johnson's position, and a no-confidence vote is more likely to succeed.

I'm hearing from totally unreliable sources that some in Johnson's camp are thinking something similar. If a vote of confidence is inevitable, they would prefer to have it before the Gray report is issued rather than after. If it comes before the Gray report, they can urge MPs who are in two minds that it would be premature to remove Johnson while the report is still in preparation, that it would make the party look weak and panicked, and even that it would be unfair to Johnson. Those arguments won't be available after the report is issued.

SFAIK he must trigger it once the threshold is reached. I don't know how much leeway the rules give him with regard to details like timing. At a guess the rules will say something like "the vote must be held within X days", but I have no idea what number X might be.

The intention there would be to all for practical arrangements - is the threshold reached on Friday night or Monday morning? Is parliament sitting at the time, so MPs are already in London, or must time be allowed for them to come to London? Etc, etc. But I don't think Brady could say "I won't hold the vote until the last permitted day so that the Gray report will have been published"; if the party wanted the vote not to be held until the report was published, they wouldn't have sent in letters before it was published, so that would be Brady attempting to frustrate the MPs calling for a vote, and jockey to arrange matters to favour the leader. That wouldn't be proper, in his role as chairman of the 1922 Committee, which is the vehicle that represents backbenchers, not the leader or the front bench.

Toast? Nah... he's more... Tubby Custard.

It certainly has the feeling of the last days of TM about it.

Whether they get the 54 letters, whether the SG report is able to be spun to let Johnson draft his responsibility, there is no doubt that he authority is gone. Sunak has been extremely slow, and measured, in any support for Johnson. Truss etc, while saying they have confidence, all are saying wait for the Gray report, which is pretty implicitly accepting that they are looking for some type of get out of jail card.

Raab has tried, go bless him, but even he took the line that whatever happened he wasn't there or even invited, so already looking to distance himself from it.

And that lack of authority will bleed into the decision making process in Cabinet. His colleagues know his days are numbered, and Johnson knows he now is completely reliant on their support. So Johnson won't actually be leading, he will be accepting whatever compromise he can get from others.

Far from the benefits of power with out the responsibility, he will have ended up with all the responsibility and none of the power.

Getting savaged at PMQ's from all sides