Do men need a license to be allowed socialise (MOD NOTE IN OP)

It doesn't pull in judges heartstrings!

Judges don't let emotion cloud their judgement. While you may think that the sob story is just emotional, judges and lawyers know that it mitigates 'somewhat' in law. It's not emotion. It is the law.

What about victim impact statements? It's not any emotional response that judges have to them, it is about the actual impact a crime has had on them. So while it may be emotional for the victim, it is fact for judges.

I have lots of friends that are guards too, they should understand how the law and legal system works

In Asia, definitely yes. In the West, not so much. Really depends on which country/culture they're involved with.

But posters on here and other threads have already said they don't get involved in other people's business.

In fact, when I suggested that society needs to call out bad behaviour, very few posters agreed.

I honestly believe that if something were to happen to me on the street, there are very few passersby that would bother to intervene.

We were sold on the idea of equality, including the belief that gender would stop being so important a distinction between people. So, men are getting annoyed because they see ever increasingly broad range of benefits being extended to women, based on their gender, and also based on the idea that men are collectively responsible for the state of society. Women are exempt for any influence that they've had on social development, unless it's a flat out positive.

That feeds into the resentment that a lot of men feel about being blamed for other men groping, cat calling, making derogatory comments or worse. In spite of the evidence/statistics of women engaged in violence, abuse or whatever, there's never any attempt at balancing the situation. No real attempt to deal with the women who engage in such behavior, and also, the collective group of women aren't held to represent this minority. Whereas, the collective group of men, are held accountable for what those who behave negatively do.

Men are getting up in arms over the sheer range of double standards being applied in society today.

That's an exaggeration. As with all of these discussions, most claims are exaggerated as if they're the norm, except they're not. Ireland is a very safe country, and if you look at the actual statistics on women being killed, or assaulted the numbers are actually quite low, especially in comparison to other countries. So, where does this supposed fear come from? the Media, and the use of statistics/risks present in other countries.

That's part of the problem there... these "stories" are shared... and there comes a degree of social proofing when people seek to compared negative experiences. Many of these stories will never be verified/confirmed and simply taken at face value. Trusted as being true, regardless of the circumstances involved. That was one of the main weaknesses of the metoo movement. Many claims, and no real attempt to verify that they were true.

Plenty of women have had negative experiences with sexism, or sexual abuse/assault. Many others have not. Just as many men have experienced sexism and sexual abuse/assault. That's what happens with humans... and I've seen no realistic/practical suggestions that truly seek to resolve these issues for both genders, that doesn't seek to discriminate/marginalise or blacken the association with a particular gender.

We're all aware of the prejudices we face in society... and considering the range of media led shows on tv, radio and the internet, most men would be aware of what women experience... I'm not so sure that women, in general, are aware or care about the prejudices that men have to face, especially those new ones that are developing out of the desire to protect or support women in society.

Back to the double standards. Women are very comfortable with making snide, or abusive remarks to other people.. and yet, I don't see you crying out against that injustice. I suspect every male in existence could tell you a dozen comments from women which truly hurt them... but that's not going to get much sympathy, or recognition. Until you, and others stop focusing entirely on women as being victims, you won't get much support from men. Besides, there's also the perspective to have thicker skin, and not be so sensitive to what other people say. There's a lot to be said for establishing some self-confidence, and anchoring your self-esteem not based on what others say, but how you want to perceive yourself.

The fact that you could write that, while previously seeking recognition, and solutions for the problems women face is utterly amazing. Are you really that oblivious, or simply have no desire for an equal society?

True, nobody should be afraid when they're out and about, but that's a pretty tall order to ensure that everyone feels completely safe regardless of their own personal circumstances and experiences. However, there is the case of dealing with reality and human nature. Perhaps you believe that people, today, are capable of creating an Utopian society, but I don't. We're still far too controlled by our passions and fears. And that includes both genders, and how they interact with each other.

Taking a long hard look would be great.. if it is balanced and also considers the impact/presence/influence of women in society, as opposed to focusing solely on men... because that's what been happening for the last few decades. All the problems that women face are external, and none can be linked to female led culture. That's not seeking a balance... that's seeking to pass responsibility on to others.

haha... this thread makes me laugh... in spite of pointing out that it's wrong to assign responsibility for what some people do or say, certain posters will continue to lump us all together... if they run counter to what those posters believe to be true.

I haven't. I've seen a lot of claims and vague references to alt-right/far right groups, but very little in the way of hard evidence that they exist, and that their membership isn't 20-30 people who are repeatedly referred to. The govt and the media need someone to blame when anything is directed towards their preferred agendas and the boogeyman, (sorry boogeyperson), is the alt-right. There's no real foundation for a serious alt-right movement in Ireland. Being critical of immigration doesn't make one alt-right.. that's just the attempt to dismiss concerns that don't support the approved agenda.

It's little different from the way feminists blame the patriarchy. Some vague formless enemy that all the worlds ills can be assigned to, while making sure their own agenda is pristine clean.