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Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [** POSSIBLE SPOILERS **]

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    #2432
    Rawr
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118496962#Comment_118496962

    Not as much a spoiler, she was in the teaser trailer :P

    Bless your optimism, hopefully it is not misplaced. Although these people have made another Trek show that I have already given up on, I have some hope that ST:Picard can still be watchable and that I can glein some entertainment from Season 2. But I am weary of Secret Hideout's uncanny ability to take good ideas and fail to follow through.

    That all said, Voyager had reduced the Borg Queen to the status of a Cartoon Villainess. So if they can manage to inject at least some intrigue or menace back into her character it will be a step up I feel.



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    #2433
    Brian?
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118496962#Comment_118496962

    She was cool the first time. But she’s been way over used IMO.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #2434
    Brian?
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    Has everyone seen this trailer? It gives way too much away for my liking. 100% going to watch it all though


    https://youtu.be/SWVA1ceMcko

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #2435
    faceman
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498510#Comment_118498510

    I must have missed that trailer. Didn't think they were doing a Star Trek 4 on it. FFS, this will just be another pile of poo like the first season.



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    #2436
    Rawr
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498492#Comment_118498492

    I'd agree, but I feel that she's also been misused.

    In First Contact, she was an interesting novelty, and her first appearance in Voyager was interesting. But then after that she sort of devolved into a rather feckless idiot monster-queen who didn't know how to throw a dozen cubes at Voyager to get rid of them. Her behavior in End Game was beyond silly.

    They could have made her cunning and extremely dangerous, but the Voyager crew routinely beat her with not too much difficulty. Future Janeway suggested that she had even beaten the Queen multiple times on her way home, suggesting that even after 20+ years of fighting an isolated Starfleet vessel, the Borg Queen still couldn't beat them.

    The Borg Queen could be good again, if they can figure out a way to make her a more complex and dangerous character.



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    #2437
    Brian?
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498600#Comment_118498600

    Did you watch the trailer? She's going to be plugging like a time travel sat nav.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #2438
    Stark
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    Looks like we won't have to wait too long more for this. Premiering March 3rd.



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    #2439
    Rawr
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499253#Comment_118499253

    I wouldn't discount the ability of a (well written) villain to get herself unhooked from that and fashion a new torso for herself. Looks like she was getting friendly with Dr. Agnes in the trailer. Maybe this was just seconds before she jumps her, assimilates her and transfers herself over onto a new body.

    I won't mind Agnes being reformed as a Borg Queen. Would be a step up from the Android-scientist who didn't seem too haunted by her unnecessary murder of Maddox, which I'm convinced the writers had somehow managed to forget about by the end of Season 1. She kind of annoys me, and it would do no harm to the show if she just went away..



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    #2440
    pixelburp
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    Watched the trailer again for this; had kinda forgotten what the thrust of Season 2 was. I had also forgotten how suspiciously cheap it all looked, what with the convenient time-travel back to 2021 Los Angeles.



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    #2441
    Evade
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    WWIII started in the 2020s. Picard having to steer Earth towards WW3 as a necessary evil to correct the timeline and ensure the Federation and Earth's place in it exists as we know it would be a pretty good moral dilemma and would tie back into the trial in Encounter at Farpoint.



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    #2442
    odyssey06
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511250#Comment_118511250

    I was going to say Galactica 1980 are looking for royalties!

    But Trek has been here before, with TOS episode "Assignment Earth" trying to be a pilot for a 1968 set series & Voyager has a nice 'contemporary' trip to LA also iirc

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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    #2443
    ilovesmybrick
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511380#Comment_118511380

    Oh, I quite like that idea! That sounds like fun.



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    #2444
    Evade
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    I just had a bad thought

    Picard: We will need contemporary clothing and communicators to blend in

    Raffie: I've got it covered JL. I've combined our communicators and tricorders into this. It looks like an Apple iPhone 14 the premier communication device of this period *awkwardly holds logo towards to the camera*



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    #2445
    pixelburp
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511380#Comment_118511380

    Huh. That would be a good twist all right; but don't you dare try and get my hopes up for any kind of narrative complexity.

    I also imagine, in regards to cheapness, the bulk of the actual FX will be various cutaways to Picard's ship in orbit; the captain relegated to a "tech support" when some futuristic narrative fast-tracking is needed.



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    #2446
    Brian?
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511044#Comment_118511044

    I don’t have the faith in the writers doing that good a job.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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    #2447
    Stark
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511439#Comment_118511439

    That's why we're not getting it 😛



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    #2448
    Evade
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    Realistically it'll be mediocre, at best, and will probably abandon what's arguably the most interesting new character after the third episode.



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    #2449
    _Kaiser_
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118498548#Comment_118498548

    I saw this trailer a while back and it reminded me of a story I read years ago - The Gift. Here's a synopsis (spoilers etc):

    https://screenrant.com/star-trek-gift-picard-q-comic-brother/

    Looks like several elements from this new season may have been "inspired" by this? (Q sends Picard back in time where a Picard has turned the Federation into a dictatorship) Another Discovery-style mess in the making?

    Meh, I won't be watching anyway. They killed Picard at the end of season 1 anyway.



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    #2450
    EoinMcLovin
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    https://youtu.be/Rtq9s5azuBU

    New trailer



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    #2451
    Evade
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    Is that the ST:IV time travel method?



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    #2452
    cassette50
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    2024 is the year of the Bell Riots? So in theory they could run into Sisko and Bashir 😂



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    #2453
    pixelburp
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    Naw. Looks like crap. Really hate those "future people visit the past" stories and Trek IV only worked cos it leaned into the comedy; Picard has been consistently too self-serious to know when to throttle the melodrama. While in the week The Expanse finished and left us 3 books shy, I'm getting sick of this cheap narrative diarrhea passing itself off as professional scriptwriting.

    Plus you just know the Guinan appearance will be one scene, then she's gone for the rest of the season. As it was in season 1; aka, pandering



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    #2454
    faceman
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118513959#Comment_118513959

    I agree. Despite the characters, it just doesn't look like Star Trek.



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    #2455
    TheValeyard
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118511380#Comment_118511380

    So... Ukraine or Taiwan?

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #2456
    TheValeyard
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    So, the new trailer,

    It's definitely going to be using the Borg Queen to Wile E. Coyote slingshot around the sun.


    Did I see Terran Steamrunner and Nova class ships, the yellow markings on them, or this an alternate - alternate Terran Universe?

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #2457
    bookworms
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    According to Data, Irish reunification happens in 2024. I wonder will it be mentioned at all?



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    #2458
    Evade
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118514914#Comment_118514914

    Taiwan. I don't think Russia has the capability to create augments



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    #2459
    TheValeyard
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118515175#Comment_118515175

    You under estimate the power of Vodka!

    All Eyes On Rafah



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    #2460
    Rawr
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    Taiwan. I don't think Russia has the capability to create augments


    You sure?

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    #2461
    Rawr
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    Watched the trailer now.

    Ugh….now I’m filled with some foreboding. It could still be good, but the beats they dicided to focus on in that trailer kind of un-ravelled some off the good will I had built up for this season. I hope to be proven wrong there.

    Also, the final line from Guinan just filled me with cringe, especially that over played «pling» from their toast. How is it possible that can they manage to make me cringe at Guinan, one of my favorite Trek characters? I go into this season concerned alas.



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