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San Francisco 49ers Discussion

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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    In January 2020 I said feck it & went to the Divisional playoff game in Levis...you never know when they'll get back to the playoffs again. How true. That game last night was utter rubbish. 2 good drives, and nothing else. Aside from Mitchell, no decent run game (Hasty isn't great, where's Sermon?)...on a night when every single person in the Bay Area knew it would be lashing rain, getting heavier as the game went on. That game isn't on Jimmy, he wasn't great (few QB's are in the rain), but the play calls were terrible and the OL is certainly not great. Also, when has he played in gloves, if ever? Who 'coaches' the secondary? It's like the DB's can't play without putting their hands all over the receivers...instant flag, everytime. Rest of the D is still solid though, linebackers & line...Bosa is a machine. Glad we don't have to hear about the Buckner trade again, but at the same time I'd say John Lynch now knows it was a huge mistake...or at least that most people think it was!

    Fun listening to the Bay Area sports radio now...going off on the team, as they should. Bears next, an L there & it's over, with the Cards & Rams after that. The Tomsula & Chip Kelly 'eras' were bad, but they were short lived and there was light at the end of the tunnel. I don't see much light at the moment...don't see any surprise trade's getting made this/next week...Sanders was the last good trade of a player relatively in his prime.

    Hope I'm wrong & they can get going somehow. A win against the Bears, and somehow sneak it past the Cards next time & they could get going. The Rams always stumble against us but they want serious revenge now with Stafford...that could be a good thing if McVeigh looses his s&(t!!!!

    But as of right now looking at the rest of the schedule...I can see a win against the Bears, Jags, Texans. Falcons are getting together, Vikings usually sneak something at the end. Bengals are too good now. Titans no chance. 5-12 would be bad, with no first round pick!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Since my rant at halftime last week, I let myself stew on the 49ers performance. Very thankful to hopefully be past the Buckner talk for a few years - Kinlaw hasn't worked out yet but I make that trade every time. I loved Buckner but despite his PR offensive, he simply wasn't taking close to the money that Armstead accepted and letting him go allowed the team to extend other key pieces.

    Today is such a huge game for the team, they have used all the excuses available to them and the Bears are just not a good team right now.

    DB penalty situation handed last week to the Colts and it wasnt the first week. Bears have been poor in passing with whatever QB they've put out and they simply can't continue to give away penalties on balls that likely won't be caught.


    Shanahan has admitted he hasnt been able to get into rhythm and that isn't news to anyone who has watched the team. In multiple games the team appears to have an edge in a certain area and Kyle has decided to get cute and go away from it for no apparent reason - while he is trying to find his groove he needs to step on teams when he gets the chance.

    Rumours coming out of the 49ers appear that Jimmy is now on a very short leash and he should be. Moving on from Jimmy isn't going to fix all the issues with the team but we continue to get passive play from him while also multiple rookie mistakes every game. We're getting the downside of a rookie with none of the upside that Lance can bring - the chart below gets the point across better than I can.




  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    That was the game we needed. But, who are the real 49ers this season? If they keep playing like this for the rest of the year, we make the playoffs and should be feared. But a short week, an east coast flight and a game we're expected to win will almost decide how the year goes I think. It's mid-November, now the real NFL games begin!



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I think to make the playoffs at a minimum they need to win two of the next 3 games... Jacksonville, , Minnesota, Seattle.

    If they do that they have a good chance. They still have winnable games against Houston and Atlanta.

    Then they'll need one of Cincinnati, Tennessee or the Rams on the road.

    I think they'll need 9 wins to make the post season.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,771 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Just makes last week loss even worse.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    The loss last week was bad but it was caused by very much what went right last night - early turnovers. If we don't have those out of character turnovers by Kittle and Aiyuk then I think our performance last week would have been very similar to what the Panthers put up on Sunday. Similarly, I'd be concerned of how last night would have gone without us getting them.

    NFL is so tight this season that a turnover or two completely changes the complexion of games and many are turning into blowouts. With Jimmy, our defense, and our focus on the run game we simply can't get too far behind or everything falls apart.

    Vikings, Seahawks, and Falcons will likely be all in the running for the wildcard spot so wins are vital against and very doable if we can get near to the similar performance with no glaring disaster games by position groups - like we've seen in most of our losses.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Aside from some injuries, everything we needed to go right this weekend, pretty much went right! Rams, Philly, Saints all lost. We started wobbly but it came right. Every game now is essentially going to be like last night, almost playoff level. We're on to Seattle!



  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭jonok28


    Solid game from Trey Lance last night. Started off jittery but found his rhythm before halftime and made some nice plays in the 2nd half. I'm getting less and less concerned about the 49ers as a whole going into next year. I still think that CB1 is of the utmost importance. I like Ambry Thomas and Emmanuel Moseley but I think that if the 49ers can land a shut-down corner, then this team is capable of special things. They have a great D Line, the linebacker group is borderline elite, I trust Jimmie Ward at FS, They do need to address SS long term.

    The offense is borderline stacked. Trey can stretch the field with his arm and can make plays with his feet. I'd love to see if the 49ers could get Gardner Minshew off of the Eagles for a 5th rounder and have the QB room have a Trey, Minshew, and add Nick Mullens to the practice squad.

    Mitchell is the next 1000 yard RB for the 49ers. I'd still bring Mostert back if a team-friendly deal can be found, Hopefully, Sermon makes a leap in year 2, Wilson and Hasty are solid.

    Deebo is a superstar, Aiyuk is finally showing his promise, Jennings has been really good and impressed me as a blocker. I still think the 49ers need A speed receiver in the draft like John Metchie III and a big-bodied Red Zone Threat that they can throw the ball up and he can make a play, I'd go after N'Keal Harry from NE. He has been bad for them but I think if he was asked to just be a red zone, box out his defender, and just jump vertically, he could be effective.

    Obviously, Kittle is a beast and Charlie Woerner has improved leaps and bounds but I'd still like another TE who can be more of a receiving threat so Kittle isn't being overused. I'd love David Njoku or Zach Ertz if they can be got for $7-9m a year.

    The O Line has come together really well. I think if the 49ers can maybe bring in a new face who can play guard and center and keep guys like Compton, Tomlinson, Brunskill, McGlinchey, Moore, Mack, Banks, and Williams, they will be in a really strong position next year.

    I'd try and trade Robbie Gould in the off-season to a team that needs a kicker, I just don't think he is the same player he once was and I question his loyalty to the franchise when he held them to ransom to trade him to Chicago a few seasons ago until he got a bigger payday. I'd give his money to Younghoe Koo off the Falcons. Have a younger special teams unit with Taybor Pepper as the long snapper, Mitch Wishnowsky as the Punter, and Younghoe Koo as the Kicker. a group you could build around for a decade-plus and not have to worry about special teams for a very long time.

    The 49ers biggest needs going into the off-season are:

    CB1 - JC Jackson (F.A)

    SS - Brandon Joseph ( Draft 2nd round)

    QB2 - Gardner Minshew - (Trade future 5th)

    WR3 - John Metchie III ( Draft 3rd round)

    C/OG - Ben Brown ( Draft 5th round)

    K - Younghoe Koo ( F.A)

    TE2 - David Njoku (F.A)

    DE2 Nolan Smith (Draft 4th round)

    WILL- Brandon Smith ( 3rd round Draft- Texans Trade for Jimmy G)



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Pretty optimistic draft and FA scenarios there. I'd reckon a CB in FA would be a good shout, I'd imagine they will go pass rusher in round 2 this year.

    Last years draft has been pretty disastrous so far. They've gotten no production from anyone other than Mitchell. Even if you give Lance a pass I think that trade was a huge reach given they could have stayed put and traded up on the day similar to the Bears or waited until their own pick like the Patriots.

    It seems like a waste of future draft capital. I haven't been impressed by Lance at all so far, Fields and Jones have shown much more. I get that he was the less developed QB but I'm not sure I see his development as being on track after 1 year in the league, he's a bit behind where you would hope he would be. His passing looks slow and a lot passes are wobbly or inaccurate, and as a runner I thought he would be much more dynamic.

    He could still improve dramatically but I would have hoped he would have beaten out Garoppolo by now. Huge offseason for him.

    The later rounds were disastrous. They could have drafted Asante Samuel in the 2nd round and got a high level starter, instead they reached for Aaron Banks (who would have been available much later), is too small and can't even get on the field with injuries along the line.

    Ambry Thomas has been atrocious so far. He gets targeted by every QB he goes up against and is not ready to play.

    Trey Sermon, another bust, even with every other RB injured he couldn't get any snaps.

    Lenior/Hulfanga - Fine I guess given where they were drafted but nothing special.

    Overall the drafting and FA additions have been poor from Lynch and Shananhan, the lack of investment in the secondary is astounding.

    This is a huge offseason for them, they need to nail some draft picks with no first rounders until 2024.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    The 49ers secondary is a huge area of weakness anyway, but now they have added 4 members of the secondary to the covid list:

    Amby Thomas

    Jimmy Ward

    Kawann Williams

    Dontae Johnson.

    They all still have a chance to play Sunday but it could get ugly if these guys can't play.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭jonok28


    The pass rush has been really good the last couple of weeks I thought. Samsun Ebukam is finally learning how to be a 4-3 DE. Arden Key, Jordan Willis, and even Arik Armstead have gotten better and of course, Bosa is a beast.

    I think the 49ers did the right thing by sitting Trey. Countless times you see QB's handed the reigns to a team too early and they get destroyed and it messes with their confidence long-term. The 49ers had a QB in Jimmy who brought them to the Super Bowl, it made sense to roll with Jimmy for the year, improve his trade value and hopefully land a day 1 or day 2 pick for him in the upcoming draft. I think right now Jimmy fetches a 3rd. If he comes back and pushes the 49ers to maybe the divisional or conference finals, then he could land them a late 1st off a team like the Saints or Steelers.

    I think Ambry Thomas has gotten better week by week and is now a really solid corner. He isn't a starter just yet but a quality backup. Lenoir again is a good backup who can play outside and nickel. I think the 49ers let K'Waun walk and replace him in the draft with a late-round player like Marcus Jones from Houston who is an outside corner but is undersized at 5"8 making him a perfect candidate for the nickel corner.

    I think they use some of the cap space on JC Jackson. He can go up against the elite WR's in the league and can shut down one side of the field.

    The Aaron Banks pick I'm not going to give up on just yet but it could be a bust. He has a chance to be decent but I think he needs to shed a bit of weight and become a bit more nimble. I also think the 49ers have found a good balance with the O line especially in run blocking so they aren't going to change things.

    The 49ers should super charge the offense for Trey next season. Bring in a receiving tight end and a WR3 who can burn teams with speed.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Well, this evening ain't turning out to be a whole heap of fun.


    Thank God for that last drive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    That game wasn't good for the heart!! Jimmy G absolute clutch, and why he's still our QB. Onto the old 90's rival next!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Wow, yesterday was the full Garoppolo experience, from absolutely bone headed, rookie type mistakes to clutch drives. Had completely written them off at half time but the team showed great fight.

    Playoffs will really hang on getting 'good Jimmy' and hiding the secondary gaps we have a chance of upsetting a few teams. The latter showed improvement yesterday with Moseley back and Thomas getting better with every game.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    100% this team makes a deep run dependent on good JG playing. Good thing is he likes the limelight, nationally televised games is when he seems to do pretty well. As much as he is up & down, I do think Kyle trusts him more now, more than the playoffs in 2019. It's pretty obvious the team won't win without going at least 30 runs/30 pass plays per game. Hang on tight, going to be a bumpy ride!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Getting pretty anxious here now waiting for this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    This team doesn't do anything easily!! They pretty much did everything to try to loose that game. A win is a win, especially in the playoffs. On to Lambeau.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I think the keys to this game are the Green Bay run defense and the SF pass rush. If SF doesn't have a big day running the ball they won't win. Similarly, if AR is not under pressure from the SF D-line then I think the back end of the defense will struggle.

    Hopefully JG isn't severely impacted by that shoulder injury as he's play fell off a cliff after the injury on Sunday.

    "Garoppolo was 11-for-13 for 133 yards and a 10.2 yards-per-attempt average before the injury and 5-for-12 for 39 yards and 3.3 average per attempt after it."

    It's tough to see a win, but there is a path to it, the defense is much better than it was in week 3 and Deebo has bought so much to the run game but hard to see Jimmy playing mistake free or Rodgers turning the ball over.

    Also special teams have been awful of late, gave up a fake punt and a rouging the kicker penalty. That sort of thing is hard to overcome.

    More hope than expectation to be honest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Need a much better second half performance today. I have a feeling we might sneak it, but Jimmy has to take better care of the ball.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Pretty anxious again here!


    Feels like Kittle hasn't been in the limelight much lately, hope that'll change today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    Hoping the bye means Packers have a slow start



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,225 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    This is gonna be a long night (or a short one for me) if our D is that soft the rest of the game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Well, as loooong nights go, that one was okay!



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    So lucky to get out with a win, how important was that blocked FG before half time?

    Defense was immense, completely shut them down after the first drive. Offensive was awful but that last drive was huge, getting into FG range. GB will be kicking themselves, they should have won that game to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Well, well, well.

    Whatever way you cut it up, 3 road wins in a row against Rams, Cowboys and GreenBay...that's pretty excellent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    If I've learned anything from J Bell & OSi, it's defense wins championships!


    Christ, I'm still buzzing after that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Yeah, still on that high.

    It has been such a rollercoaster of a season but I absolutely love this team.

    Shanahan and Lynch have done such a fantastic job of building a great culture - so much fight. With shipping Jimmy off they should be able to keep the core together for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Soooo, who do we actually want to win this Rams Bucs game?


    I kinda want Bucs to win because the law of averages means the Rams have to, someday, not get slapped down by us.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Brady v Jimmy would have been better for sure. But not to be. Tickets for Rams game are absolutely ridiculous, or I'd be over there in a flash...got until the end of today to find 3 tickets for 600 bucks a piece! Help turn Sofi red again, seeing as the Rams are trying their best to stop Niner people buying tickets after week 18!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Tickets are trending towards $600 again at this stage for the nose bleeds after shooting up a crazy amount last night. Seems like there is plenty of supply so I'd hope they'd drop more as we get closer to the day



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Lowest I’ve found & they didnt stay on Seat Geek site long was $659…that unfortunately includes $180 in fees per ticket…thats the real killer. If I was to do it I would have had to really pull the trigger last night due to needing a covid test before flying. Couch it is!!

    PS: it’s much easier planning & going to playoffs when you have the no.1 seed & everything flows through Levis!!!!

    But Sofi is going to be a sea of red even more so than week 18! Newbie Rams fans ain’t paying those prices for tickets…those $659 tickets were in the ceiling!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Getting nervous a day early here.


    Gonna repeat what I said last week about Kittle, he'll be big tomorrow.

    And also that, like the team I'm 100% behind my man Jimmy.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Looks like a few fans have made the trip:




  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    Gonna be 65% near 70% red tonight! No doubt the faithful have showed up in LA & they know how to be loud when its needed! If ever a game for the Niners needs a bit extra help its this one...so close to call right now. Superbowl being the superbowl it's always a mixed bag & more a constant hum! This is the last proper game for proper fans.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,161 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Disappointing end to a great season.

    The defense wasn't great at all last night and lucky not to have given up more points in the first half. The Rams were able to run the ball, control the clock and pick up 3rd downs at will.

    Ambry Thomas got burned a number of times. It would be harsh to say the pass rush didn't show up but they weren't as dominant as they needed to be to force Stafford into mistakes and help out the secondary. Too often Stafford had time to make his throws.

    Offensively this was a disaster. Shanahan's game plan wasn't great to begin with and he didn't make the necessary in game adjustments. The 49ers got nothing going on the ground and if we can't find a way to run the ball we can't win, simple as that.

    Garoppolo is not going to turn into a great pocket passer all of a sudden so I wouldn't put much blame on him, he did as well as could be expected.

    I will say that Shanahan doesn't ever call a great game with a lead. He gets too conservative. Last night we had 4th and from the LA 45 with 10 mins left. That should be an automatic go for it situation, pick that up and you almost certainly add points and bleed clock.

    With the way the defense was playing especially he has to go for it there. On the next play Tartt drops an INT and from then the offense went to pieces completely. Not sure what the plan was on the last few possessions but it certainly didn't work.

    While there is plenty of blame to go around I think Shanahan deserves a good chunk of it based on the offensive performance and not being able to kick on with a 10 point lead at the start of the 4th Quarter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    We've won as a team, and that was certainly a loss as a team. Not on Jimmy, not on Tartt, complete effort in failing to deliver when it was there. Yes the Rams ran the ball like we should have & we had no answer to Cupp, but they were there for the taking. It's very much like the Superbowl loss two years ago, when we had KC and the D just went to pieces & Jimmy/Shanahan couldn't do it when needed.

    There was a few stupid penalties, the taunting was ridiculous...if you get called for that, please have taunted properly! 51 barely looked at him...don't know what the ref seen there. The Jimmie Ward one I totally understand as he said he was going to do this before the game...pay back for week 10 when OBJ bashed him after the INT. But it was at a crap time. But in general, like the other game, the refs let a lot go...like the delay of games.

    Great season that showed almost nothing after that Colts loss. So to have got here is bloody good going. On the road since forever it seems and finishing something like 9-3 for the last run. I've said it before...getting this far isn't easy and doesn't happen every year. Sucks now, but looking back, it was a hell of a season. I can't remember the last Niners game that wasn't a nail biter & aside from last night, we've won nearly all them!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 569 ✭✭✭jonok28


    The more I think about it, the more I'm really excited for next season. We have 3 potential 1000 yard receiving weapons in Kittle, Deebo and Aiyuk. Jennings is looking like the WR3 we have been looking for. Mitchell if he stays healthy is a 1000 yard rusher. If we bring Mostert back we would have a stacked RB room with Sermon and Hasty and or Wilson.

    The Secondary and QB play for me is what lost us the game this year but to be fair your going against OBJ and Cooper Kupp so they were always going to get yards. They have addressed the QB position long term, now it is time to fix the secondary long term.

    I think Emanuel Moseley, Ambry Thomas and Deomodoire Lenoir should all be coming off the bench next season and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way. We have seen with the 49ers D Line that rotation and keeping them fresh has been key to the 49ers dominating in the trenches. They should do the same with the Secondary. Have Moseley, Thomas and Lenoir off the bench and be really impactful quality depth pieces and spend some money in F.A and picks in the draft to build depth.

    Go after JC Jackson and shut down one side of the field, go after another top corner in the 2nd round and find a slot/nickel corner to replace K'Waun. Find a SS in the 3rd round and build around these guys for years to come. Save the money you would pay Tartt and K'Waun for paying other guys when the time comes (Bosa and Deebo).

    This 49ers team is really really close, you can feel it. Address the secondary, have Lance come in and live up to his potential and this team has a chance to come roaring back really quickly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Gutted for the team in that loss but what a season. They showed incredible fight to get through the challenges and make it that far.

    Went into more detail on the gameday thread but have to be confident heading into next year if Trey can even keep the same number of mistakes that Jimmy had and shows the added upside plays with his arm and movement. With Jimmy and Ford off the books they can make it to nearly $40m to spend, putting them in the top 10 with few big names needing to be re-signed. Any extension for Bosa and Deebo wouldn't greatly impact it either, as usually only new bonuses will hit the salary cap on top of what was baked into the cap already.

    As noted already, secondary and OL should be the focus, while trying to keep that DL depth be re-signing some of those guys who are out of contract. Would also be interested in seeing if we could bring in one of the vet Edge guys on a reasonable deal to be across from Bosa.

    On the staffing side things aren't looking too bad. Managed to keep Peters and Carthon in the front office. Huge news that Ryans is going to stay next year with the team. He definitely had issues at the start of the season but really fell into the groove as the year progressed. Being more sure of himself and having a better secondary should make that side of the ball extremely strong. It is however looking like McDaniel will be out the door to the Dolphins, which is not great but I am not concerned with Kyle there. I am sure they have the next guy ready to step up or else Kyle could pull someone like Klint Kubiak in as new OC (his brother is already with the team). Only fear would be if McDaniel took some key position coach like Kocurek. McDaniel going would also mean a 3rd rounder this year and next, which if we add a pick or two for Jimmy they have some ammo to fill the 1st rounders gone for Trey.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    The Jimmy era is unofficially over. He followed up Kyle & John in a presser last night, last of the season. While they said they're looking at all options, he came straight out of the gate pretty much saying that was it, reading between the lines. Although he basically said never say never when asked, he said his final goodbyes to the media and fans. He's always been more honest than Kyle with the media!

    A Superbowl run and NFC Championship game in his two seasons where he played most of the games is a hell of a run, no matter what is said about him. In 2014 with Kap regressing, then 2015, 2016 and 8 games of 2017, it was dark being a Niners fan. Jimmy comes in, sits for a couple of weeks, then wins 5 straight. The guy got it done, never complained especially this year! Played through some injuries which he probably shouldn't have! He wasn't the same after the ACL though.

    As a QB, never really wanted the spotlight too much, thats rare enough in the NFL these days. Things we won't see for a while is his mentoring of Trey Lance & how well that was done. He learned it from Brady, so I think he passed what he learned on. With Brady retiring yesterday, one thing that was said on Pat McAfee's show, was no teammate has ever said anything bad of Brady. Same can be said of Jimmy here with the Niners.

    He could help the Niners out one more time by getting a decent pick for the trade, and I do think we'll get at least a 2nd rounder and maybe a 5th too. A year ago, you couldn't have given him away so along with a NFC championship run, the team should get a decent pick now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    The 'what if' regarding the knee injury will always stick with me. He hadn't started great that season but he never seemed to be the same since he returned.

    He has been such a great pro - wish it had worked out with him but when we were in the position to upgrade with the draft we couldn't turn it down. Interested if he'll actually perform a bit better from a viewer perspective with some more freedom and being allowed to play up tempo more frequently wherever he lands.

    Looking back on getting him for just a 2nd, it ended up being a steal - even more so if we can get similar in return this offseason. Will be hoping for success at his next stop and supporting him unless he is playing the 9ers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,724 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    After a couple of days digesting what was an absolutely sickening defeat, my stance now is that I love all of these guys and I can't wait to see what they do next season. I'm more sick that these particular guys didn't get to the superbowl, more than my team if that makes sense.


    Will 100% be rooting for Jimmy wherever he ends up.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,171 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    Anthony Lynn is a great hire, especially if McDaniel leaves. If he goes I'd be all for Lynn being running coordinator and bringing in Pep Hamilton for passing. He'll be highly sought after but coming up under Shanahan looks to be one of the best ways to get a HC job (just behind McVay).

    Glad to see the back of Hightower from special teams - aside from the GB game they have been a complete disaster. Hopefully they can bring in someone with a good track record, not just a buddy of Kyle like Hightower was.



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    Yep like the Lynn hire. Knows the run game, and he came across as a good guy on Hard Knocks a while ago.

    Gonna miss McDaniel's press conferences though!! Don't know how involved he actually was in terms of OC when Kyle does a lot of it, but clearly had influence there or he wouldn't get a HC job (same with O'Connell of Rams). The team has dealt with turnover of coaches before so no biggie I hope! Yep, need a good special teams guy now. Was the GB game the catalyst for Chicago taking Hightower, and will he take Gould back with him also?



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    I'd say Shanahan did Hightower a favour and told him to find another job or he was getting fired. As for why the Bears picked him up - I think you're right on the GB game blinding them, along with him being a former coach there.

    Hoping McDaniel doesn't poach too many backroom staff. You'd have to presume the Dolphins are too attractive spot to go unless they are getting a serious bump up in title. Sounds like part of taking the job with the Dolphins was keeping most of the defense coaching in place, which should hopefully limit the bleed



  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    San Francisco media starting to really ramp up when it comes to number 12 possibly making his 'comeback' to his childhood team! Some of the bigger national media too! So many pieces to even get that one to workout, not to mention the hardest, and probable reason why he 'retired', the wife! And here we thought the Niners offseason this year was just who we could keep from leaving in FA!

    With both Niners & Brady usually quiet in terms of leaks (except the retirement!), I think if it happens, it will be right before it's announced. Right now I'd say it's a long long long shot, but then the only reason people started talking in the first place is the Never say never comment! Now other stuff is coming out. I'm 100% for it - provided its this coming season (a year off then a comeback doesn't work at his age). Let Trey sit another year, the kid is only 21. And this jersey, if it happens, will be the best selling jersey of 2022!




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    I wasn't very interested when it was an option last time because Brady looked pretty dire his last season with the Patriots and Jimmy was coming off a Super Bowl after coming back from a serious injury so looked set to establish himself. Things have changed now, Brady has showed he can still play well and, though I couldn't be more pro-Trey, I am 100% behind bringing in Brady, presuming it involved a reasonable cost in draft compensation and he doesn't ask for a huge salary - I don't want to risk losing Bosa or Deebo or the team to not have depth.

    Seems like a case of 2+2=5 from the media but it makes all the sense in the world if Brady wants a comeback, especially with the stories that a rift with the Bucs coaching played a part in him retiring. Outside of him going home, he'll want to chase another ring and the 49ers are the warm weather team with the most Super Bowl ready roster and best coaching group that would be open to a QB change.



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    Fans should be keeping a look out for 49ers players in Ireland. Seems like Alex Mack is getting married today in Ireland and at minimum Kittle and Juice are attending and have been hanging around in Dublin.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 320 ✭✭myate


    He got married in Limerick or Shannon I think! They picked a great weekend to come over...sunshine & warmish!!



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