Marvel Cinematic Universe general stuff

Useless Lump · 03-02-2022 4:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118576427#Comment_118576427

what other shared universes are there though?

DC attempt didn’t work so they are just making individual movies. Universal monsters fell apart after the first one.

There are the only two superhero franchises in cinema.

There are plenty of original, imaginative movies out there from talented filmmakers who are not doing superhero movies.

Agent Coulson · 03-02-2022 5:12pm

Watched Blade again I really hope Snipes gets a role in the rebooted MCU version

Maybe cast him in the Jamal Afari role from the comics if they don't go with Whistler.

The White Wolf · 03-02-2022 5:49pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118576571#Comment_118576571

There are more but don't want to particularly come across as bothered, so just listing the main ones of recent years chasing money besides Marvel and DC:

Sony Marvel, which is the equivalent of going down to the very bottom of the barrel.

The Fast Franchise.

Godzilla/Kong.

The Disney+ Star Wars shows, both current and planned

Harry Potter/Fantastic Beasts/whatever JK spins next

And then there are reports of separate films for shat like even The Power Rangers.

Spin offs or shared universes, they're more or less the same thing now with the spin off planned before the 'original' is even released.

Agent Coulson · 03-02-2022 5:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118576939#Comment_118576939

X-Men

Bond

Star Trek

Lord of the Rings/Hobbit

Indiana Jones

Rocky/Creed.

Hunger Games

Twilight

Planet of the Apes.

Bourne.

Useless Lump · 03-02-2022 6:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118576970#Comment_118576970

Those are film series not shared universe.

and they are not what these moaners like Emmerich are complaining about.

Bond is the longest running but isn’t doesn’t “dominate” like they are saying Marvel does.

Useless Lump · 03-02-2022 7:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118576939#Comment_118576939

so, there is more than I remembered but there is the thing - sure the shared universe idea comes from Marvel and of course studios will try to do it (they are in the business to make money) but it isn’t like the shared universe idea is dominating Hollywood - Sony SpiderVerse is in its infancy, Fast & Furious is a series with one spin off, etc.

how many people even know these movies connect to other movies?

Sure Fast& Furious dominates the box office every couple of years but it isn’t taking up screen time every few months

Studios might be trying to replicate the MCU but they have nothing on the scale and a lot have just died out.

The problem in Hollywood isn’t the shared universe idea - that is minuscule - what is “ruining the film industry” is remakes and Ryan Reynolds movies.

JP Liz V1 · 03-02-2022 10:50pm

Dakota Johnson is currently in talks to join the Spider-Verse. The actress is being eyed to play the titular role in Sony's "Spider-Man" spin-off "Madame Web".

pjohnson · 06-02-2022 11:57pm

Emmerich can console himself and blame the MCU for his latest incredibly expensive flop if he wants but its very pathetic.

pixelburp · 07-02-2022 9:30am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118593007#Comment_118593007

Bad time IMO to release big blockbusters: unless you're a solid, dependable IP it feels unlikely markets are comfortable enough to flood cinemas so soon "after" a global pandemic (insofar as the Omicron variant appears to be heading). The latest Bond, Fast & Furious, and Spider-Man the only real hits IIRC.

Plus, maybe said global pandemic has neutered audience appetites for watching the world burn. Can't imagine the passive yearning for a little nihilism plays as well as it used to.

~Rebel~ · 08-02-2022 4:00am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118593648#Comment_118593648

Yeah, that's very true... i'd say "going for the sake of going" attendances are still way down. For myself anyway, pre-pandemic i'd have gone to the cinema at least once a week - but since April 2020, I've only gone to Tenet, A Quiet Place 2, Bond, Spiderman, Dune, and Liquorice Pizza. Things I really actively wanted to see in cinema, and material (or directors) that I was already firmly connected to.

We're probably getting closer to returning to a situation where going to the cinema is something you do off-hand, but I don't think we're quite there yet.

JP Liz V1 · 09-02-2022 8:30pm

Anthony Ramos has been cast in a secret role for Marvel's #IRONHEART

The actor is said to have a big role in the series and in future Marvel projects

JP Liz V1 · 10-02-2022 3:23am

Russell Crowe will be starring alongside Aaron Taylor-Johnson in Marvel's #KravenTheHunter movie

FunLover18 · 10-02-2022 4:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118609007#Comment_118609007

Technically it's Sony's Kraven The Hunter and given that Crowe already has a role in

Thor Love & Thunder

I presume this means we won't be getting anymore MCU/Sony-verse crossovers.

Loughc · 10-02-2022 9:27am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118609026#Comment_118609026

I imagine we will get more crossovers.

I imagine Crowe's character in Thor dies.

pixelburp · 10-02-2022 9:31am

Kraven the Hunter?

Look, I'm sure he is plenty of peoples' favourite, alongside Madame Webb, but ... snort. You so lame Sony.

flazio · 11-02-2022 1:56pm

All of the Netflix Defenders range of shows are being pulled off the service on March 1st.

https://news.newonnetflix.info/news/daredevil-and-all-the-marvel-series-are-leaving-netflix-globally-on-march-1st/

pixelburp · 11-02-2022 2:46pm

Honestly, it's no great loss IMO. The shows never quite managed to gain momentum enough to forge a proper identity, while the obvious inability to even mention the wider MCU always jarred. They could also be a bit of a slog to watch.

Loughc · 11-02-2022 2:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118615626#Comment_118615626

Will they find their way onto Disney plus at any stage?

Doctor DooM · 11-02-2022 4:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118615853#Comment_118615853

Might not be to you, but there's been a huge consistent grass roots campaign for years on twitter of people looking for some form of continuation of the NMCU under #savedaredevil

They were all so happy with Cox in No Way Home, they are NOT going to be happy if there's no way to watch these series.

flazio · 11-02-2022 4:24pm

It'll turn up on Disney+, I'm sure. (Although if they happen to misplace Iron Fist, no biggie)

There's one other series hiding elsewhere, Cloak & Dagger is currently sitting on Amazon Prime, I suspect that will also be on the move soon.

pixelburp · 11-02-2022 4:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118616457#Comment_118616457

I had meant to add the caveat that of the properties, Daredevil seemed to have the most enthusiasm behind it; as you relate, it wasn't uncommon to read interviews where Charlie Cox or Vincent D'onofrio was asked if there was to be another season. So yeah, to be fair I was a little bummed Daredevil was canned. But overall? I dunno, never got the sense the Netflix series really lit up the zeitgeist.

None, bar Iron Fist Season 1, were bad shows as such but they always lacked ... something. I dunno: pacing, stakes, a proper antagonist - just some X Factor that made them a little inessential. Even The Defenders fell a little flat for me, never feeling like it knew what to do with its group of heroes.

FunLover18 · 11-02-2022 5:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118616624#Comment_118616624

I think you're right about it not lighting up the zeitgeist even amongst Marvel fans. One of my best mates who I would go to midnight screenings with had never watched any of the Marvel Netflix shows and only decided to start having seen NWH and Hawkeye. I've told him to just watch the Daredevils and the first season of Jessica Jones.

Penn · 11-02-2022 5:54pm

Daredevil, The Punisher and Jessica Jones (season 1) were definitely top-tier. I actually enjoyed The Defenders too even though most didn't. I imagine all will end up on Disney+ regardless.

Varik · 11-02-2022 10:45pm

Madame web was a big part of the 90s cartoon, and opens it all to more multiverse stuff. Would say a decent number in their late 20s and 30s remember that.

The White Wolf · 11-02-2022 10:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118618294#Comment_118618294

She's playing a newer version of Madame Web in the comics that is essentially a Nick Fury type.

Varik · 11-02-2022 11:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118618315#Comment_118618315

There's literally a half dozen spider women and they pick the one who everyone forgets about and occasionally shows up in Spiderman events.

Agent Coulson · 13-02-2022 7:23pm

AOS is also leaving Netflix in the US this month.

Agent Coulson · 13-02-2022 7:23pm

So will this open the door for Netflix style brutality and violence and help bring back rest of The Defenders and The Punisher to join Daredevil & Kingpin in the MCU.

“He’s brutal,” Feige tells the online movie magazine Empire. “It’s been fun to work with Disney+ and see the boundaries shifting on what we’re able to do. There are moments [in the series] when Moon Knight is wailing on another character, and it is loud and brutal, and the knee-jerk reaction is, ‘We’re gonna pull back on this, right?’ No. We’re not pulling back. There’s a tonal shift. This is a different thing. This is Moon Knight.”

https://deadline.com/2022/02/moon-knight-brutality-disney-series-1234932395/

Slydice · 14-02-2022 12:36am

Trailer for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWzlQ2N6qqg

Feels very Loki adjacent. Definitely feeling a bit hyped about the potential

maybe .. just possibly.. just maybe maybe.. X-Men intro!

FunLover18 · 12-03-2022 12:06am

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1502410405095878659?t=ndSXEd-NM6uROSt3EZlYlA&s=19

I enjoyed Free Guy but this definitely feels like a step towards a tamer, safer Deadpool.

flazio · 14-03-2022 5:17am

William Hurt has died. May he rest in peace.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbECXyGP06E/?utm_medium=copy_link

flazio · 14-03-2022 6:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118781737#Comment_118781737

He had terminal prostrate cancer

Agent Coulson · 30-04-2022 5:51pm

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1520444648027795457?s=20&t=o9xAfGOqDun2qgfqPECjqg

Agent Coulson · 10-05-2022 4:55pm

Spider-Man Rated-R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9xcCMdwns&t=75s&ab_channel=Corridor

flazio · 18-05-2022 1:14pm

Noticing a lot more cynicism and vitriol towards Marvel project threads and claims of fatigue setting in.

For what it's worth my opinion the reason I'm starting to feel fatigued is that we've had about 12 - 15 Marvel Studios projects, between Disney+ series and movies and we still don't have a coherent idea what path Phase 4 is walking down. Multiverse of Madness was expected by many to be the Infinity War of Phase 4 but failed to deliver needed answers. Post credit crossovers are few and far between and tend to involve characters that don't have an active arc in progress. It's hard to believe there's a bigger plan in action here.

pixelburp · 18-05-2022 2:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119080281#Comment_119080281

I'm not even sure I'd classify what I feel as "fatigue" with the MCU as such ... but something more akin to complacency. We're hitting 30 movies and already past a half dozen TV shows; there's too much to keep track of, the sheer volume is so much now I've slowly just tuned it out to an extent - past the point where the series as a whole remains "essential viewing" for me. Time was, a new MCU film was a point of genuine excitement; that nervous energy for who might see this time - now it's just all a little rote. I'm not tired of it, only that the films have become part of the cinematic furniture. They're there, continuing.

As I said in the Dr. Strange 2 thread, I'm not even that bothered anymore about spoilers, cos why try and stay clean? It'll get revealed within a month or two given the narrow cinema-to-digital window (a Far From Home cameo I wasn't aware of was spoiled by Marvel's own promotional push for the digital release!) - and even legitimate outlets can't keep their lips shut. So instead of wasting energy keeping pure, I'm taking the opposite approach and letting everything be known to me, whether I see the films or not. That way, the films or shows I choose to watch won't trip me up when they reference a film or character I technically didn't see in their solo film.

Re. Phase IV, my gut instinct tells me the big scuffle is going to be between Variants across the Multiverse; with the big pull to be the return of some Phase I characters in "evil" forms. That's just a wild theory, but like you I can't see where this is all going. Infinity War was set up relatively early in the lifespan of prior Phases. Thanos appearing all the way back in Avengers 1 after all.

Varik · 18-05-2022 3:13pm

We'll get some version of one of the secret wars.

Probably the more recent one, multiple earths/universes collide and some of the MCU characters manage to survive and fight through the new world while trying to fix it.

Story get's lead by pretty much all the big characters that Marvel have left in MCU, with no Boseman being the only wrinkle there.

pixelburp · 18-05-2022 7:19pm

Stan Lee's likeness has been sold to Marvel for 20 years. That should include digital recreations, though you'd wonder what appetite there's for a CGI Stan appearing in a MCU film.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/stan-lee-marvel-studios-licensing-deal-1235149039/

Agent Coulson · 18-05-2022 9:23pm

Rumors that there is a Captain Carter project in the works.

I'm down with anything that keeps Hayley Atwell in the MCU.

However I'd love another Agent Carter season set in the 60's

Agent Coulson · 18-05-2022 9:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119082118#Comment_119082118

I now wonder how much actors will put on their likeness when they die.

This takes Bruce Willis threat of a lawsuit against Apple to pass on his Digital Music to his kids all those years ago to a whole new level.

Mr Crispy · 18-05-2022 9:46pm

Of course there are worse ways of using the likeness of a dead person.

https://twitter.com/KimKardashian/status/1321955644736303104?s=20&t=JOdWqW79QL5io0niX6LcxQ

Agent Coulson · 19-05-2022 4:35pm

I want The Cavalry to appear out of nowhere now and save someones ass be it a movie or a show.

https://twitter.com/MingNaDaily/status/1527011307177840645?s=20&t=utNFSdCet1mgV2ZgUL7GrA

FunLover18 · 19-05-2022 4:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119086007#Comment_119086007

Of all the AoS characters, she's definitely the one I'd most like to see more of.

brianregan09 · 19-05-2022 5:05pm

I'd rather she was recast as a better character , she's much better than that AOS stuff, bring her in as Lady Deathstrike in an X-men Movie

19-05-2022 6:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119086007#Comment_119086007

It's not like she isn't hanging around Disney studios...

Agent Coulson · 05-06-2022 6:02pm

I am Groot

https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1533493867714068480?s=20&t=HE22OUrBjFAx5-FLX6pnoQ

Slydice · 06-06-2022 2:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119162215#Comment_119162215

I am Groot.. *nods*

I am Groot.. *strokes chin*

I am Groot 🙂

Agent Coulson · 09-06-2022 11:52pm

The Thunderbolts movie is officially in the works with Jake Schreier set to direct.

https://twitter.com/rottentomatoes/status/1535010775235891200?s=21&t=5L0B8zRWkjbkN2EArMlngg

Varik · 10-06-2022 9:55am

Probably going to have them named in honour of General Ross story wise after William Hurt death. Thunderbolts without thunderbolt ross.

Maybe they'll recast, Sam Eliot played the part in the first Hulk movie which isn't part of the MCU.

pixelburp · 10-06-2022 9:57am

Forgot all about Ghost; she was a good "Villain", in that her antagonism was personal while her power had a nice twist in that it was killing her.

The Suicide Squad re-do set the bar IMO for movies featuring villain team-ups, hopefully this can distinguish itself a little.

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