Joe Biden Presidency thread Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21

Igotadose · 26-01-2022 10:03pm

A rumored frontrunner: Ketanji Brown Jackson, on the DC circuit court, confirmed by the Senate a couple years ago, and married to the twin brother of Paul Ryan's brother-in-law. That'd be former Speaker of the House under the #2xIMPOTUS.

Quin_Dub · 26-01-2022 10:44pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118537431#Comment_118537431

Christ on a bike.. The more you get to understand about their form of Government the more you realise it's an utter bloody shambles.

I mean who on earth decided that that utterly ridiculous level of votes and approvals was a good idea??

Talk about complexity for complexities sake.

AllForIt · 27-01-2022 2:19am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118535521#Comment_118535521

As far as I'm aware Biden followed through on Trumps decision to pull out of Afghanistan. It's not Trumps fault Biden made a hash of it.

And you mustn't be keeping up to date with world affair because what I can see is a very serious problem emerging in Ukraine.

And, you'd expect employment to go up now hat the effect of vaccines are kicking in.

AllForIt · 27-01-2022 2:40am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536190#Comment_118536190

I think this is the biggest lie I've ever heard on boards.

Every bookmaker not only thought Biden would win but that hardly anyone would vote for Trump. That Trump would be completely trounced.

What happened was he wasn't trounced at all, and ended up getting the second biggest vote ever in terms of numbers, second only to Biden. And how does that look? That Trump got more votes in actual numbers the second time around. You could argue higher participation but even taking that into account it wasn't by any means the trouncing the polls suggested. Not even close. Totally wrong in fact.

At least some commentators, who I know despise Trump, at least recognized the polls were way way off, in fact some of them were surprised he lost, despite the polls showing he hadn't a hope in hell.

I'll never believe polls in the western world again. They've got it wildly wrong so many times in the last decade that I think they can't be trusted. Who oversees polling? Nobody I guess. It would be so easy to manipulate the polls if they are done without any independent oversight. And polling does influence how people vote, perhaps enough to swing it.

Rjd2 · 27-01-2022 4:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118537431#Comment_118537431

This is doom mongering thankfully. Looking at the senate members of that committee their is not enough people who are certain to be obstructive for the sake of it.

Its probable whoever Biden picks gets about 5 or so Republican votes, Graham, Mc Connell, Collins, Murkowski, and maybe even Mitch himself if feeling trollish.

Its a low stake victory for the Dems while the GOP people like Romney etc can chat about how they are all for bipartisanship unlike the other side (not my opinion but that will be the talking point),,,,Mc Connell does not have the numbers to keep the seat open for 3 years nor does he even need to looking at the senate.

Manic Moran · 27-01-2022 4:54am

Try reading the thread. I've frequently called out Manchin and Sinema and said that Biden is being too politically correct in not pushing through with policies that he said he would

How does he push through something if he doesn't have the votes? He can call out Manchin and Sinema all he wants, they don't care. He didn't hire them, he can't fire them, and they don't work for him. I also suspect they are a little more in tune with what it takes to get elected in their constituencies than most.

duploelabs · 27-01-2022 7:52am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538532#Comment_118538532

It would have been a lot easier if trump hadn't made the deal before he left office that released 5000 imprisoned taliban fighters in February 2020 before the pull out, or had you forgotten about that?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58738953

Faugheen · 27-01-2022 8:14am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538551#Comment_118538551

You’re accusing me of lying yet you go on this diatribe?

I specifically said ‘election night’. Trump was a clear odds on favourite when it looked like he was well ahead in the Rust Belt and Georgia. Go back and find the thread(s) if you don’t believe me because odds were regularly updated. Learn to read posts properly before you start accusing others of lying (lol at someone defending Trump doing this btw).

Also, he lost by over 7 million votes and lost by the same margin in the electoral college that he referred to as a ‘landslide’ in 2016. As I pointed out, Walter Mondale got closer to Ronald Reagan than Trump did to Biden in the popular vote. That’s how much of a trouncing it was.

He got his arse handed to him yet people here are still banging on about ‘but but the polls’ and trying to gaslight us into thinking it wasn’t a bad result.

It’s so utterly predictable. No doubt someone will be along to say ‘you’re still talking about the election ugh get over it’ and be completely devoid of any self-awareness.

Brian? · 27-01-2022 8:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538660#Comment_118538660

They don’t forget, they ignore.

Trump did his level best to ensure the Afghanistan pull out would be a disaster and then Biden had to attempt to clean up his mess. There’s a pattern there.

Tony EH · 27-01-2022 8:38am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536190#Comment_118536190

What is it with Trump worshippers and betting?

Faugheen · 27-01-2022 8:49am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538713#Comment_118538713

And polls. They were constantly told the polls mean **** all unless people go to vote and yet they’re now claiming some sort of moral victory around the polls being wrong.

arthursway · 27-01-2022 8:59am

Another new day another new record low for Bidens approval.

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everlast75 · 27-01-2022 9:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538745#Comment_118538745

Fox news, Oann, Newsmax, Facebook groups constantly post negative news about Biden.

Republicans when Biden's numbers are affected:

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Faugheen · 27-01-2022 9:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538745#Comment_118538745

Any answer as to why you think independent voters will go back to Trump?

I know you’ve been lurking and avoiding the question so an admission that you don’t have a clue would be sufficient.

Cody montana · 27-01-2022 9:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538713#Comment_118538713

And losing.

You forgot that part.

arthursway · 27-01-2022 10:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538761#Comment_118538761

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-approval-rating-young-americans-independents-opinion-poll-january-2022/

He is leaking heavy especially among independents.

Independents don't align or identify with anyone they react more to day to day effects on their lives like the economy inflation gas prices etc which are all going against Biden.

The federal reserve will be increasing interest rates this year several times it is forecasted which will play into Trump's hands aswell.

These independents voted for Trump before remember in 2016 so it's not like it would be something new for them.

Why do you think the independents will stay with Biden is the more interesting question?

Quin_Dub · 27-01-2022 10:23am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538966#Comment_118538966

Independents who voted for Trump in 2016 did so because they were willing to "give him a shot" as a comparative unknown quantity.

That no longer applies , everyone knows EXACTLY what Trump is and will vote accordingly.

Biden is not polling well at present , but the best thing that could happen to any Biden 2024 campaign would be for his opponent to be Trump.

Right now , Biden probably loses to any other GOP candidate - Running against Trump though and barring GOP Vote rigging bullsh!t Biden wins again.

As has been pointed out already , unhappiness with Biden does not automatically mean willingness to restore Trump to the Whitehouse in 2024.

osarusan · 27-01-2022 10:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538599#Comment_118538599

The only people harping on about polls now, or then were and are fans of Trump.

That's not true at all though. When Trump's approval ratings were in the toilet, there was plenty of comment on those polls in CA. And when some election polls had Biden looking hopeful in certain traditionally red states (I remember the polling on Texas being discussed at length here when there seemed to be a hint that Biden might swing Texas), there was plenty of interest in those polls too.

There's nothing unusual at all about being interested in polls when you like what they say, and then dismissing them when they don't. The exact same thing was happening when Trump was president.

Faugheen · 27-01-2022 10:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538966#Comment_118538966

This post says nothing about why Trump will win them back over at all, which is what you are suggesting when you say the ‘right’ forecast is that Trump will win. He can’t win without the swing voters.

Its not about whether they’d stay with Biden, if he runs and it’s against Trump then it’s a no brainier where the swing voters go and that’s blue.

They're the ones that are, for the most part, thinking rationally and not just along party lines. You believe independents would vote for Trump knowing what he did in his four years in office?

Any other GOP candidate and it’s a completely different story. Trump only appeals to his base and loyal GOP voters now. He had an appeal of independent voters in some states because of the unknown factor and he wasn’t a standard politician. All of that rope is long gone.

Also, I never said the Indies would stay solidly with Biden no matter what and what I’ve highlighted above signifies that. However, if Trump is on the ballot, then he won’t win them back over. He’s part of the elite political class now, he can’t claim otherwise anymore.

Faugheen · 27-01-2022 10:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118539027#Comment_118539027

And a large number of posts were with the caveat that they mean **** all unless people go out to vote.

You can’t read anything into approval rating polls. You couldn’t then and you still can’t now.

arthursway · 27-01-2022 10:37am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118539027#Comment_118539027

I suspected as such, nothing like democrat hypocrisy 😀

osarusan · 27-01-2022 10:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118539046#Comment_118539046

But some of the people now saying you can't read anything into approval ratings were reading things into them then.

And some of the people now saying you can read things into approval rating polls were saying you couldn't read anything into them back then (albeit, now they often with a brand new username).

We've all seen this play out on boards day after day, year after year. Why deny it happens?

Dyr · 27-01-2022 10:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538599#Comment_118538599

This is not the Trump thread, posts about Trump don't belong here. Thanks

Faugheen · 27-01-2022 10:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118539131#Comment_118539131

Tell that to the people who keep saying Trump will win the election in this very thread.

Wait, you won’t.

hotmail.com · 27-01-2022 12:29pm

Nothing like a Supreme Court nomination saga to get the media excited in America.

Difficult to see if the public will fall for it this time.

Cody montana · 27-01-2022 1:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538966#Comment_118538966

You don’t even know who’s running!

The election is years away.

This is a pointless discussion.

Tell me how · 27-01-2022 3:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118539131#Comment_118539131

If you want to be a mod, just DM Beasty or Niamh.

The post was about the pointlessness of polls btw.

arthursway · 27-01-2022 4:35pm

Are the left trying to cancel polls now? 😀

Quin_Dub · 27-01-2022 4:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541167#Comment_118541167

I don't think anyone is trying to cancel polls however they are trying to point out a number of key points

Firstly - It's almost 3 years until the next election for President so whilst current polls are interesting (and pertinent in terms of very early trending for the mid-terms) right now they tell us absolutely nothing about an election that far away.

Secondly , and this is the point you have been studiously ignoring for quite a while - A poor poll result for Biden does not equate to "Trump being a shoo-in for 2024" or anything even remotely close to that.

And finally Thirdly , again this far out none of us can be truly certain if either man will even be running in 2024 let alone winning or losing, for a whole host of reasons.

By all means continue to discuss Biden current poor polling numbers as it pertains to his Presidency , but equating them to meaning anything for Donald Trump is both pointless and fundamentally incorrect.

everlast75 · 27-01-2022 5:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541282#Comment_118541282

The mention of polls is meant to do nothing but try and get people who support biden annoyed.

There is little to no discussion of policy. There is no engagement as soon as opinions are countered with fact.

Everything is merely posted for a reaction.

Cody montana · 27-01-2022 5:50pm

The US economy grew at 5.7% in 2021, the fastest rate since the Reagan administration (1984)

Also, US economy grew at an annualized rate of 6.9% in the final quarter of 2021, the Bureau of Economic Analysis reported Thursday.

But Joe is destroying everything???

arthursway · 27-01-2022 6:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541282#Comment_118541282

I was just poking fun, I understand what your saying completely no one knows what is going to happen in the future but I feel your overestimating the loyalty of swing voters in swing states in particular.

Who knows what the future holds.

Polls can't be completely dismissed they give an indication of how the American public feel and their opinion, and the American publics opinion carries alot more weight than any of our opinions in this thread.

extra gravy · 27-01-2022 7:08pm

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1486756549372567561?t=v4o3IclCw0MCc3FgIlFkiA&s=19

And about time too.

Heads will explode and the "iDenTity pOlitIcs" crew will be out in force 😂

Brian? · 27-01-2022 7:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541901#Comment_118541901

I wonder if it’ll be Kamala

arthursway · 27-01-2022 7:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541901#Comment_118541901

Wise move by Joseph.

Bidens approval among Black Americans:

April 2021: 83%

January 2022: 64%

Not a demographic the Democrats can afford to lose points with.

Cody montana · 27-01-2022 7:21pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541909#Comment_118541909

Or Anita hill.

Brian? · 27-01-2022 8:18pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118541969#Comment_118541969

I wonder is Anita Hill too old?

Dyr · 27-01-2022 8:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118539150#Comment_118539150

You mean the election where he'll presumably run against one Joe Biden, the incumbent president and the subject of this thread?

There's your clue.

Dr. Bre · 27-01-2022 8:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542219#Comment_118542219

Anita over the Hill

Faugheen · 27-01-2022 9:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542326#Comment_118542326

'Presumably' being the key word there. Nobody knows who is running. All the pro-Trump heads are the ones bringing that up.

I assume you don't need to be told what 'presumably' means considering you're a super-duper mod and all that.

Cody montana · 27-01-2022 9:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542219#Comment_118542219

Yeah, but it might push out Clarence Thomas.

Wishful thinking.

rossie1977 · 27-01-2022 9:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118538996#Comment_118538996

Disagree. The other Republican options have no chance of winning nationally. They know that hence why they continue to appease Trump at every turn.

Trump as bad as he is is their only option right now

Rjd2 · 27-01-2022 10:30pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542613#Comment_118542613

Lot can happen with midterms etc, but if its as bad as predicted then its going to be very hard for Biden to beat a non Trump candidate.

RDS who is clear 2nd fav with the bookies would be solid fav v Biden and especially vs Harris.

I'd only give Biden/Harris a chance against Trump, Pence and possibly Pompeo.

Their is a reason why the media who for the most part aligned with the Democrat party won't shut about Trump, they want him back as he is the only candidate who can unite all elements of the Democrats when it comes to 2024.

Brian? · 27-01-2022 11:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542464#Comment_118542464

Jesus. I missed that completely.

Do it Joe!

y0ssar1an22 · 27-01-2022 11:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542613#Comment_118542613

regardless of how biden does in the next 3 years, or if he runs for reelection in 2024, i dont think the GOP should allow trump to be their nominee in 2024.

i was a big a fan if his (and equally anti biden), but i think its time for him to move on.

i put money on RDS being the republican nominee and the next president at about 5/1 and 25/1 (dont remember the exact odds), maybe 18 months ago. from the media exposure he has garnered over the florida vs biden debate on covid/vaccines i think he is a shoo in if trump doesn't run. he is very impressive dealing with the media.

and even if trump wants to run, i think too many independents will have forgotten about him in 2.5 years that the GOP should tell him to step away.

Faugheen · 28-01-2022 12:08am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118543189#Comment_118543189

The problem with Trump and the GOP is that if he's told not to run, then he'll possibly just set up his own party which will take voters off the GOP in the Presidential, Senate and House elections.

He has the GOP by the balls, and Trump has shown that he cares only for the interests of Trump. If he believes the GOP are f*cking him over then he'll do whatever it takes to get his own back.

If the GOP tells him to step aside, they will do so with the knowledge that they will likely take a battering for an election cycle or two and I just can't see them doing that.

Trump has to be the one to decide he's not running in 2024 if the GOP want any chance to keep his base.

markodaly · 28-01-2022 1:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118536751#Comment_118536751

Sure, he could but it would be an insane thing to do, given his lack of popularity and midterms coming up....

rossie1977 · 28-01-2022 4:07am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118542772#Comment_118542772

Dos Santos has absolutely no chance of winning nationally, none, zero, zip. The dude is an absolute slimeball and unlike Trump doesn't have the charm to cover it. He is hated by half the people in Florida and pretty much unknown outside the state so yeah no chance. He is basically the Ted Cruz of this election.

The reason the media want Trump to run is because the dude is ratings, that's all they care about. They would be happy to see the world burn as long as they are on top of the ratings chart weekly...

Tell me how · 28-01-2022 5:13am

Would be delighted to see Stacey Adams appointed to the SC.

Black, female, law degree, experienced attorney. And an absolute pillar of what society needs.

Her eyes are obviously focused elsewhere, and that aside, I don't know if having run for a particular party excludes someone from consideration.

Rjd2 · 28-01-2022 5:53am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118543599#Comment_118543599

Who knows.

RDS does seem to appeal to a lot on the right, the establishment GOP love him and he is one of the few GOP newer figures who the Trump base seem to really like. Guys like Hawley, Pompeo and Cruz have worked so hard to attract that base and have failed miserably, their is some political skill in that.

On his popularity in Florida , yeah he's clearly decided in last few months that 2022 is a done deal so focus more on the GOP base needed for a primary.

Luckily for him his rivals are Crist who nobody in Dems circles is excited about and a lass who seems more intent on getting twitter likes than been a serious politician (Fried).

November will tell us a lot, he should be winning that election comfortably if anyway serious about 2024. Maybe if Rubio runs the score up on the much more impressive Val Demmigs (compared to the clowns that RDS is facing) then he could be a runner.

On Trump totally agree and its sickening, ignore all their grandstanding to quote Bill Burr they want Darth Vader back because he makes them relevant and a lot of money.

I can't recall which Never Trumper (wilson one of that ilk) who recently said he wanted Trump to be the GOP candidate in 2024 because he would be easiest for Biden to beat,,,but then you look at the rest of his timeline and he discuses how close America was to disaster with how narrow the margin was in the battleground states regarding Trump.

You can't with a straight face say " we barely defeated the most dangerous and reckless president of our lifetime" and then 2 minutes later say "please come back as we think you are easy to beat" these people aren't serious whatsoever.

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