Russia - threadbanned users in OP

It would be easy enough to source coal from elsewhere I suspect. Easier than gas and there wouldn't be any shortage of bulk carriers for coal, unlike LNG.

Yeah but the fact is we can’t use the alternative LNG that may be supplied by the US and Corrib provides below 50% of our gas needs now.

So if the gas taps do get closed we are up **** creek.

They allow 40 other countries including Russia to use shannon .

And no weapons or munitions have ever been brought through Shannon ,

Russia bombed over 100 hospitals and medical clinics in Syria over the last few years ,

But America brought men and women through Shannon who spend several million a year in the local economy ..

How shocking ,

But in a really weird and ironic way the Same people ranting about the US Will be begging the same US to save them if we get dragged into a war...

You seem to have some comprehension issues. My posts precisely bring some balance to this thread, I have pointed out the hypocrisy of Western Imperialism and their lackeys here and elsewhere.

Rather interesting you've sought no such balance from the Russiaphobes on the thread.

You are aware that assessments inform opinion....there is nothing inaccurate in any of my posts which is why most replies are not in response to what I've said but what they think I'm saying but then again if you bothered to read my posts amd replies you'd see that. Now my good lad that would be a better use of your time than posting disingenuous replies...

Ah FFS no munitions or weapons, grow the f@ck up. Now you're just descending into lies.

Indeed but there has much focus on them in the thread hence the need for some balance to the hypocrisy...do keep up, please!!

As you say we would hope get it via the pipelines that are connected to others (i.e. the UK). We'd have no direct control ourselves because we can't imort it from tankers. Now I don't think the UK is self-sufficient either (haven't looked up figures) and are in turn connected to others too, but they can handle imports by tanker themselves.

(I assume) we have to hope there will be some sort of co-operation & burden-sharing around Europe in event of a cut off or a large decrease in fuel supply from Russia but I suppose you never know and there may be an every man for himself game of countries all cutting each others pipeline connections, hoarding gas, scrambling to secure their own stashes etc. I think that's less likely to happen than co-operation though.

If Russia’s gas is turned off how likely is it there will be any left of the alternative gas, that the US will supply, for us to use?

The LNG can’t be offloaded in Ireland as we don’t have an LNG terminal.

We would be depending on the UK to share.

Personally I don’t think it would be amusing if we had no gas or electricity in the country, but whatever your into yourself.

Can you provide anything other than whataboutry.....

We know about iraq it's been discussed over 20 years on boards,but one of the biggest issues with Iraq was after they went in there was no real what now , which then allowed iran and others to sponsor and support directly an insurgency against the civilians of Iraq based off settling scores from a previous conflict and setting themselves up as the new major player in the region.

It's not so simple as murica did this and murica did that ,we know we boardsies have discussed it thoroughly over 20 years...

I think you may be taking a pessimistic view (!) but I admit I'm discussing this from a position of ignorance.

I don't know the UKs dependence on supply of gas from the pipes that connect them to other countries (in the EU?) and haven't had a chance to look into it.

I don't know if they can replace that with their own tanker imports in event of a supply crisis, just close connections and not send any gas Ireland's way either + come out in a better position than cooperating with others.

You're right though that UK under present leadership is probably most likely country (out of ones that will be affected) to try the "f-ck you I've got mine" road if they think they can make that path work for them.

It had to be done

We import 50+ % of gas from the UK.

page 9 of the link below shows a map of the connections from mainland Europe into the uk.

Leo really should be called out on that.

We import from the UK.

The UK import from Europe and

Europe import from Russia and Norway:

Europe is a net importer of natural gas, almost two thirds (64.1 %) of the EU-28’s imports of natural gas in 2015 came from Russia, Norway or Algeria

Although in saying all that if you read on a bit further:

MaREI, Environmental Research Institute, University College Cork, carried out a recent study on the European integrated gas and electricity model for the EU to examine supply interruptions. One scenario they ran, was to model the impact of no Russian supply to Europe for a full year. They concluded that even if Russia didn’t supply the EU or Europe with gas for a year there would be no gas shortages across Europe.

No the biggest issue with Iraq was that they went in at all, a campaign primarily around securing oil but concocted on a tissue of lies and faux concerns about human rights.

You never did get back to me on the 750 bases in 80 countries...that's the inconvenience of facts for people like you they bite you in the arse! 🙂