Russia - threadbanned users in OP

So you can't answer anything about what I said that you think is a conspiracy? There was nothing conspiracy about my post at all, just facts and you know it which is why you refuse to answer.

And I know the bloody difference, I spend a lot of time on threads about Northern Ireland and have been in many discussions about MI5 activity in Ireland so I wrote MI5 out of habit, not a hard mistake as I'm sure most people would agree but good try on making accusations of conspiracies in relation to known facts and refusing to answer why you even call them conspiracies.

I copied and pasted that from an article I read yesterday by the Irish examiner, it was a quote from a marine conservationist, you're the only one on here making stuff up.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40794042.html

No according to several posters it's all propaganda , there's no Russians in Ukraine ,there was no invasion , flight MH17 was a hoaks.

And did we know America invaded Iraq like it was breaking news

He labels posts I make that are stating simple facts as "boogeyman conspiracies" and then refuses to answer why it's a conspiracy after being asked numerous times and proceeds to ramble on about nonsense.

The point was to provide evidence of how often in the last 20 years that the West (mainly US and UK) routinely spreads misinformation and propaganda through the media in attempts to further their aims, which is why I'm simply telling people to open their eyes and not believe everything they hear like the narrative and all the scaremongering they are currently hearing, like those moronic fishermen for example, who probably haven't got a brain cell left in their head and would believe anything if they seen it on the TV.

I don't believe there is an imminent invasion coming and all the other scaremongering stories like the British and Americans are claiming, even the Ukraine president of Ukraine only yesterday told the West to chill out.

For God sake it's even been circulating around the media that they are planning to invade Ireland and the Kremlin is also launching cyber attacks against our health service, I'm sick of all this nonsense.

Completely twisting my words and making up lies because you know you were wrong, pathetic really.

When you called what I said "boogeyman conspiracy theories" you were quoting the post where I said the intelligence services were providing the media with misinformation and lies in relation to WMDs and other matters to justify the invasion of Iraq, which is fact and common knowledge for everyone at this stage.

There's loads of it been going around for God sake, not that most people will seriously believe it but if you know how propaganda works it's all scare mongering and planting the seeds in people's heads so when less extreme claims come out then people will be more likely to believe it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/russia-going-attack-ireland-audience-26083060.amp

I think you're just a troll at this stage I'm not even going to engage in further conversation, anyone can feel free to go back to the last page and see for themselves that's not the post you called a boogeyman conspiracy theory, it was in relation to propaganda before the Iraq war.

No it's not, I claimed the intelligence services of both the UK and USA spread misinformation and lies through the media in relation to WMDs and other matters to justify invading Iraq, anyway we can agree to disagree if you think that's a conspiracy them fair enough, let people make their own minds up.

I said "for god's sake it's even been circulating around the media that Russia is planning to invade Ireland" as an example of how bad the scaremongering has got, you told me to post an article I googled it and posted the first thing that popped up.

Ukraine has already been excluded , Russia who invaded ukraine 8 years ago repeatedly tried to stop ukraine having a say in the Minsk and Minsk 2 agreements they wanted Germany , France,and America to be the only ones at the table ,and even then when there was agreements Russia pushed it's troops further into ukraine and then blamed Ukraine for breaking the agreements,it the same reason Russia blocked ukraine from asking the UN to deploy peacekeepers to help deescalate the situation in the East,and Putin said they were preventing Genocide of the Russian population.

But lets look at the situation between the US and ukraine I think it's Been taken out of context ,it's global news that's Russia is readying an invasion ,the Americans put it out they didn't want Americans to travel ,then withdrew embassy staff along with other countries ,Zelensky this is causing panic, but most Ukrainians are just going about their daily lives ,Zelensky believes they should already have imposed sanctions , but what would happen if sanctions were imposed and nothing changes military wise, the Russians won't stop ,

But if the west keep the pressure up Putin can't move,yes he's more or less surrounded ukraine and blocked them from using the azoz sea for shipping through the black sea, but a slight miscalculation from Russian forces and there's no way back .

Zelensky could do himself damage if he's seen to be biting the hand

That the situation Ukraine is in