VW ID.3

Thanks for that. Actually the salesman was quite clear, in writing, that all conditions would be the same as if I had taken delivery in July. That turns out not to be true: not only is it now 2 tyres, but I missed out on the Airtricity €675 offer.

Went to my local VW dealer yesterday and had a look at the ID3, sat inside for the first time. Asked what was the delivery time for them now and he said week 10 2023, my jaw dropped. I'll be a while longer with my Polo in any case.

€300 for that service and an extra €204 for front brake pads seems absolutely outrageous to me for what the need to do. And why do they need to change the brake fluid?

I took had a test drive in an ID3 today and I have to say I loved it. I was told that if I were to order today, it would probably be July '22 but possibly as far as September '22 before delivery.

Guess it’s always good to have a list if any cancellations happen / additional stock comes available. But I’d say anything for 2023 won’t get actually ordered for a number of months.

i don’t with at a dealership, but seems most logical.

nay

Too pricey and early reports were that it didn't make the car more efficient (although that may have been fixed in subsequent software updates). If it were €400 cheaper or if I lived in a nordic country, I probably would've sprung for it. I suppose if you also do a lot of long journeys in winter, assuming the bugs are worked out and it actually saves energy, it might be worth it for you.

So at this point, I should get the 2 year service warning before most, as I got the first one delivered in Dublin.

I'm already wondering what I'm going to do at the end of the PCP plan.

I think that I'll probably need to call in to the dealer before September and get my name down for a 2023 model.

Also, the way 2nd hand prices are going, there's no way I'm letting them have it for the 20k final payment if the trade-in value is 25k+

They had me sign a specific document that ensured that you understood that you would have NO equity in the car.

I can always refinance the 20k and then look to trade-in afterwards.

Yeah, no equity in the car at the end of the PCP plan. Looking at prices of used ones atm, I'll have lots of equity in it if I pay off, or refinance the balloon payment.

Thats not PCP if it said that. I think you missed a word or two in the T&C’s. You would have to sign to say you may have no equity at the end but that’s not actually determined until the time comes. It’s not an upfront statement of certainty.

pull out your T&C’s again. It won’t say what you think it says.

unless you are thinking of the “hand it back” scenario where you don’t pay the balloon payment and hand the keys back. In that case there would be no equity but that’s a choice you have, so again, not a certainty. You decide how it goes.

basically, if the car is worth €25k on the market then you have €5k equity.

Walking away is silly considering you can sell privately and walk away with the equity you would have had if you were trading in for another car.

For the first edition VW offered a lease and pcp options. This sounds like the lease. They were giving it out with no deposit to fulfil their numbers.

if you got the first three months payments free then it’s a lease. I had to sign as well that there was no value at the end.

Although even with this the car is still worth more to dealers than its currently owed value. How long that lasts I do not know (probably until intel get their 2 chip factories built in the US and wherever they put their European one.)

The lease and pcp are structured exactly alike. Except the lease has no equity at the end. Although it still could. I think this was a one time thing to get people in cars. It doesn’t look like it’s being offered anymore.

I’ve heard, so unless someone actually works for vw and can very take only as a reasonably sounding rumour, that as it was expected to be launched earlier in 2020, the sales targets and vw orders for cars were pre-set for the year. So instead of moving a 1000 cars over the year, they had 3 months to do it.