******* Motors Chat Thread *******

What kind of reaction were you expecting in a forum dedicated to those who love cars?

I understand where you're coming from, we all have grievances with society and others actions but you could pick your audience a little more wisely.

If I were to campaign for a more enjoyable neighborhood I'd probably start by ousting those who wish to control the lives of others. Personally I don't want any NIMBY warriors in my back yard.

The noise limit for exhausts is 99db, should the Gardai be doing more about it, probably but there's worse crimes going on that need the Gardai resources

I don't know, I think playing into exactly the stereotype I was denouncing was pretty spot on.

I'd give it a solid 3.6/5 on the sarcasm scale. Not great, not terrible.

The point is you've seen them.

Bikes are much more difficult to visually notice while driving but if you hear it first, your attention is brought to it and the biker is now in a much safer position.

To say that is a problem is to say you value 5 seconds of relative quietness while driving, more than that person's life and safety.

You may not accept it but thats fine because you're acceptance is not criteria for reality.

For a bicycle to make as much noise as a 600cc sports bike with a short, open exhaust, you'd need to carry an air compressor, powered by an electrical generator with a diesel engine which would render the air compressor and air horn unnecessary.

But consider this, bicycles often have bells yo alert others of their presence. More noise would definitely create awareness to drivers and a claxon in a bottle cage may be a good call.

Where would you have suggested I brought the grievance? The equestrian forum? That makes zero sense. Its one aspect of motoring I am critical of and I think its a reasonable criticism.

Is this forum only for people who blindly support the behaviour of all motorists. I am a motorist myself. And obviously you are being a nimby yourself with that contribution.

You are basically advocating for more noise in your and your neighbours backyard at night time.

Again I agree. This shouldnt even be an issue, if Gardai were seen to make even a small bit of effort to deal with it that could be a disincentive to people modifying their vehicles to be as loud as possible. Not worth the grief etc

Probably on a legal forum, a local forum or in an email to your local councilor. You'll get a much better response in these I imagine.

Didn't think I'd have to post this twice,.maybe it's a a "no fun" thing.

Your suggestion was anyone who objects to anything to move out and live in the countryside.

As if people should just shut up and not make any effort to make the place where the live in anyway better.

I wont give my opinion on that attitude as it will just push the discussion further off topic.

No, I made the point that regardless of where you live, you will have noise pollution. It's a fact of life.

This is a chat thread, there is no topic to come off.

I havent. If a vehicle is not deemed road worthy by AGS it should be seized and not released until the owner has arranged for it to be repaired in the interest of the safety of the community and other road users.

Noise pollution should be taken as seriously as defective lights or bald tyres or not having tax or insurance etc.

There should be no need to seize anyones property at all. But as has been identified there will always be assholes where that option will have to be considered for the greater good.

You seem to be glossing over the matter that these vehicle are passing inspection on are road legal. You say you're a motorist but clearly not mechanically inclined. It is no small job to replace an exhaust system and it's not something you'd do for the sake of a test and then change it back later that day as you've suggested.

Just because you don't like the noise, does not mean it is illegal.

Again, if you want that limit lowered, get on to your local counselor.

Yeah it's mad that a lot of dealers aren't budging on the price of what essentially has become a lower spec model.