Galway traffic

This is a discussion forum. Not a court of law. I do not have to prove something or anything. I don't reckon; I know the people. Even if I gave you DNA evidence. affidavits etc. you wouldn't believe me anyway!

What are you cynical about? They are parents, I've met plenty of the kids. The lifestyle choice would be wanting their kids to be safe, not spending their own lives stuck in traffic and maybe getting some fresh air and exercise (all good things IMO). And nobody thinks of being a cycling campaigner as appealing. Even I'm wary of them 😂

You know nobody believes that... Temporary is a very loose term to the City Executive...

If this is a trail, where are the goals, where are the target to deem it a success or failure?

Not there... What kind of fools do ye take us for... I find annoying that you think we are so stupid that we don't see a moving goalpost when we see it...

We know full well what will happen, they would be a cycle event on a fine Sunday and it would proclaimed a success no matter how empty it would be for the rest of the time.

Just look at some of the grandstanding here... Where was there the concerns for the residents of Salthill concerns?

I'm not sure you understand the difference between the councilors and the GCC. Councilors are elected but have no real control over the decisions within the GCC. The engineers, etc. decide what's happening in terms of planning and infrastructure and don't have to listen to the elected councilors at all as far as I can tell. So the councilors voted for the cycleway, which then went to GCC and they threw together these couple of plans. Never heard anyone say they were great. Can you point me towards anyone saying that? Probably not.

Ironic that you're on about persecution complexes when you seem to constantly worried about some big bad cycling lobby out to force you onto 2 wheels. It's just some regular people looking for safer cycling in the city. And as has already been explained to you, it's not a trial, it's a temporary test with specific start and end dates (does it help if I do it in bold?). Targets and objectives would be nice but GCC aren't big on those at the best of times. Hopefully they'll take lessons from it and come back with something better in the future but we are currently only being given 2 options.

And just to state clearly (since a lot of people here seem to living in fear of some global cyclist cabal out to get them), I'm not really a big fan of this plan. It's nearly useless to me personally since there's no infrastructure to get to and from it and I'm not a big "Prom guy". I go to Salthill village regularly enough but that this won't make much difference to that trip. I think that cars parking in nearby estates will be a real issue but one that needs to be tackled by parking regulations and enforcement, not sticking our heads in the sand and continuing to do more of the same/nothing. I also don't think Salthill businesses will get as much benefit as they might because of the issue I mentioned above of getting to/from the area. But this is what's on offer and I don't see what the big hoopla about trying it out is. We've sat in traffic for long enough. I can't understand why everyone is so obsessed with continuing to do it.

What you say is the GCC , I call the executive... And I think both of us pretty unimpressed by them... I thought they would have least rang up the Emergency Services, Schools and Golf Club and got there views first... Maybe a discussion with the few business on the Blackrock -Barna Rd section... B They are just terrible and if their plan was everyone to have a fight and nothing happen, well they achieved that...They are generally not from Galway and they seem to care less...

The Executive/GCC seemed to have driven this so badly they have pitted groups against each other where they could have been far better... I personally think they don't care, they have an arrogance for doing these kind of things... Thee was no real discussion before these options were thrown out there... Then they did a great job pissing off a large section by voting No change will not count. I was all on for a trial of Dr Mannix road and a serious look at extending the prom and giving more area to walkers and cyclists. Add in a tidal pool as well... Join Millar Lane and Threadneedle Road cycleways...

My big ambition would be a walkway around Rusheen Bay... Would be an almost unique experience in Ireland where they could have weekly running races where people can post a time and try and beat it...

I hope you can see I want actually more cycle lanes than was asked for but I know removing parking from the Prom is very precious to a lot of people... IT is the wrong way to approach it... Money needs to be spent and the Executive have just dumped a load of good will...

I for one think it's worth trying out in any case. At least at the end of it we will have some results and one side of the group will be silenced.

No we won't... There is not targets or goals set up... No cost benefit structure in place going forward... This is if you pro or anti which ever, a incompetent mess already...

Trials are meant to have a measurement criteria... We are supposed to see the costs... There are 8 guys going to loose there jobs in one petrol station, has that been accounted for... This just setting up for a bigger argument...

I really can't understand how people are drawing an equivalance between Blackrock (Dublin) and Salthill. That road in Blackrock has been one way for well over a decade anyway. The only difference seems to be that a cycle lane has been added to one side of it. Doesn't make a whit of difference to what was there already.

Couldn't a bicycle counter be put in place to determine the usage? They have them in Dublin on several routes.

8 guys are for a fact going to lose their jobs in the petrol station? That's a certainty yeah? one way traffic will prevent 100% of cars going that petrol station? Sounds like a bad plan if 100% of cars can't get to it alright.

Ya I never thought it had the biggest need for one but I don't pass through it at busy times so don't feel qualified to comment. From a leisure point of view is a bit mad that such an amenity doesn't have space for cycling, but I was never into scenic cycling so it again doesn't effect me personally.

I don't think this cycleway is really part of the effort to improve Galway traffic congestion. It needs cycle links to other areas to really make a difference there.