Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I am beginning to think that Russia seriously underestimated NATO's unity on the Ukraine question. Russia has been probing NATO for years and drew the wrong conclusion that they [NATO] were a has been.

You clearly have no idea how propaganda works, which is why you fall for it so easily.

In the recent story published by every major Western media outlet that Russia was planning a false flag attack against it's own people as a pretext to invade Ukraine, where do you think the media got this information from? The CIA, this is fact and is pointed out in a few of the articles, if the CIA want to circulate a story in the media or create a narrative then all they have to do is tell the media whatever they want, and boom, the story is everywhere, that's how propaganda works.

How will we know if this is true or not? We don't but most people will assume it to be true anyway if the media reports it, it's the exact same way propaganda was promoted during the Iraq war and other US conflicts, the intelligence agencies simply told the media about WMDs, the media reported on it and everyone just assumed it to be true.

Reminds of cheerful spring and egg posters who cropped up in the original Crimea and ukraine threads 8 years ago , total denials of all things Russia and putin in Ukraine ,

No troops in Crimea and eastern Ukraine and flight MH17 wasn't shot down , instead the Americans planted the reckage of flight MH370 , which disappeared the same year near malasysia .

This is what we're dealing with

Alright Yurt, I used strong examples on how propaganda works by using examples of Iraq and how the intelligence services told the media about WMDs in Iraq, the media then reported on it and everyone just assumed it to be true.

This example correlates strongly to much of the information and narrative we are currently being fed like the story that was all over the news recently that Russia was preparing a false flag attack against their own people for a pretext to invade Ukraine, this information was given to the media by the CIA, this is fact and is admitted in some of the articles, albeit less people might have believed it as a few people are starting to cop on after all the lies we have been told by the media over the years and won't just believe every headline they see.

The intelligence services can simply tell the media anything they want with no evidence and then that information will be all over the news and in every newspaper in the West and then like WMDs and all the other lies people with automatically assume it to be true, that's how propaganda works.

The Ukrainian president only two days ago called on the West to stop creating panic on the situation.

The propaganda machines of the West like the BBC, claim in their headlines on the presidents comments misquoting him by saying "Ukrainian president calls on the west to not create panic on the situation", implying they are not already doing so, the panic they are creating has completely brainwashed you so much that you believe anything that goes against the narrative is all Russian propaganda.

It seems the actual sides involved, Russia and Ukraine are the ones who most consider the threat to be minor.

The Ukrainian president two days ago called on the West to stop creating panic over the situation and speaking at a news conference on Friday, Zelenskyy said: “I don’t consider the situation now more tense than before. There is a feeling abroad that there is war here. That’s not the case.”

Russia claims they have no intention to invade, Ukraine tells the West to stop creating panic over the situation and that they don't consider the situation now any more tense than before, at the same time the British and American governments acting on information from the intelligence services tell us that an invasion is "imminent" and that Russia is preparing a false flag attack against their own people as a pretext for the invasion.

It's actually just funny now at this stage how much the West is hyping this up for their own benefit and even funnier how easily people are falling for it.

Channel 4 news ran a good story this evening on how their report from a day or two ago was picked up by Russian media, mistranslated to make out the west are the instigators and rebroadcast on their version of RTE1... give it a watch... even get one of your comrades to retranslate independently what was said..

Standard MO from MFPM,,,,his posts are liberally peppered by use of derogatory words in his reply's...... Nonsense, Bizarre, Lad, Thin skinned, Assumptions, Smart ass, Hilarious, Disingenuous, Sanctimonious, and the latest one, replying to your post.... Arrogance. Wonder what drives a person to this level of discussion??? Its really strange. I might agree or disagree with a post, and argue a point, but I'd never stoop to using words / phrases belittling the poster.😎

I'm not, I'm looking at the facts and have come to the conclusion the Russian narrative is far more realistic than the Western one, the facts are Russia said they have no plans to invade, Ukraine is telling the West to stop creating panic over the situation and that they don't see the situation now as any worse than before.

While the intelligence agencies and the British and American governments are telling us that an invasion is imminent and that Russia is preparing a false flag attack against it's own people as a pretext for the invasion.

I didn't ask you that.

I asked you specific question what threat are Russia under that's immenient according to the Russians that needs 100k troops.

Stop avoiding questions and trying to change the story and the question.

What? They never asked them to decrease coverage, they asked them to stop creating panic over the situation, stating that they don't see the situation as any worse than before.

Sorry I can't reply to the rest of your post as it is not a coherent sentence and I can't understand what you mean.