Supreme Court Describes Traveller Community as “Vulnerable Minority”

There is no need to change all of Traveller culture, just those aspects of it that are born mainly of toxic masculinity, the treatment of women and girls, the fighting, the disregard for the environment etc.

Traveller culture wasn't always such. If you go back far enough, they were the original recyclers, taking old stuff and upcycling and reusing. The nomadic aspect to their culture isn't wrong of itself either. However, an awful lot needs to change and very quickly.

Imho the younger generation have no respect and act the eegit hard men and women etc.,

This will set a precedent and open a can of worms for local councils

That would be ideal but Travellers aren't even able to get a pint in a pub, how do you expect them to just go out and get a job?

I don't know what the answer is, but expecting Travellers to abandon everything they've ever known, their entire families and way of life, to better fit in with a society that has only ever treated them like dirt and ostracised them, is a tough ask.

Chicken and the egg problem. All the negatives you have mentioned have a root cause. Suggesting that reactions to the root causees need to be addressed first is simply not getting it.

It is important to note the council failed in their duty to provide accommodation after the initial site was damaged. They also didn't go take the funding waiting to be used for that very purpose. They then want to kick them off the land with no alternative. The council failed here in their duties.

I have had run ins with certain travelers over the years and I could easily think of them as all the same. The reality is councils all over Ireland are refusing money to provide accommodation that they are meant to. That is discrimination and they are a separate minority in this country how anybody following the law could see it differently would be a miracle.

I get why people knee jerk to the ruling but the council are at fault here. They have to acomadate them and if they think they don't they should resign.

how does anyone going to prison resolve anything?

ultimately where an individual is a danger to the public then sending them to prison protects the rest of us from them regardless of who those individuals are.

for the non-criminal aspects of traveler culture then education is the only option, removing supports or other things certainly won't change it but would highly likely make a lot of them regress further into those aspects so that's not an option.

So its the guards fault for not stopping them from breaking the law?

Considering the consensus here is that the guards aren't doing enough to police the state, people only go to prison when they get caught, adolescent Travellers commit a lot of crimes and its actually hard enough for someone from any background to get a prison sentence these days if they have a sob story the below figures are totally disgraceful:

“It also reflects a wider trend in the criminal justice system. We know that Traveller men make up more than 10% and Traveller women make up 22% of the adult prison population. The total Traveller population only constitutes 0.7% of the population.”

we know from the country's own past that such would not work, because the brutalisation of catholics is one of the main reasons why upon our part liberation from the UK ireland turned heavily to the church.

yes the gardai dismantled the tent and rightly so.

a job well done.

those who attended would have been in contempt of court so it's for the court to decide what should have happened in relation to this incident.

when you engage in attempts to eradicate a culture, then the people of that culture whether it be religious or other, will turn harder to that culture as soon as the ability for them to do so comes around.

the fact that ireland's hard turn to the cc was a century ago and society has moved on does not change that fact.

of course i am not comparing like with like as catholicism and traveler culture are different things with catholicism being a religion and traveler culture being a way of life, but the facts still remain the same when attempts are made to forcibly move people away from cultural or religous ways of life.

This bar owner said it out straight " I had problems with travelers in the past and I won,t have it again ". a lot of bar owners would say likewise to be honest.