Yet another young woman attacked by a male. When will it end?

Aren't we lucky mcentee is going to ignore minor convictions and take serious convictions 'into account ' with her amnesty.

Will she be blamed when some criminal nut from a foreign male chauvinistic society attacks or murders one of the citizens of the country that gave them amnesty....or will men be blamed? What's more likely?

I got it from the media, and the range of policies implemented by governments over the last decade, and no it's not all in my head...

I never said that women were conspiring in any shape or form. I referred to feminism, which does not represent all women, considering how many women have stated that they are not nor support modern feminism.

Once again, you're responding to things that weren't said. More thought police attempts. Projecting beliefs and then seeking to counter those projections rather than deal with what was expressed.

It was shot down because most male posters pointed out that they don't engage in such behaviour. That's been the case with most suggestions to help the situation.. referring to the behaviour of assholes and suggesting that it's a common occurrence that most men are going to be able to influence. Which they're not... Most men don't whistle at women, because they already know it's inappropriate behaviour.

You're right it is a perfect example, but rather for expecting men to change something that they have no ability to change. Think on this. I don't whistle at women, so then, the expectation is that I should intervene when I see other men whistle at women, but in all honesty, I haven't seen anyone do it for years, but if I do notice it happening, I should intervene with, likely a group of men who will shift their attention to me instead of the woman. Grand. The woman walks away, but I'm left with the aggression of the group of men, because I've just challenged them, and as a group confronting another man, it will likely become more aggressive, and possibly lead to violence. However, the woman has walked away and is clear of the trouble, so that's alright.

The problem here is that female posters aren't listening to what male posters say. We understand what happens when one man confronts a group of guys or even the kind of guy who wolf-whistles at women. We understand that such a confrontation will escalate, and likely lead to violence, The risk is real not because of "male culture" but the testosterone that exists in the male body, leading to aggressiveness when two or more men face off. And in all honesty, regardless of who comes out the winner, my confronting the other guy(s) probably won't change their views, and they'll continue behaving that way towards women.

That is why such suggestions are meeting resistance. They're not practical, rely on placing men at risk, and won't change anything.

A lot of us already would do that.. I don't have friends who behave that way, because I'm not that way myself. We tend to make friends with people who reflect our own values.. so, the expectation comes back to policing other men and their behaviour..

Approaching strangers to stop them behaving that way, runs the risks that I described above. You said that you don't expect men to put themselves into danger, but every fight carries massive risks in terms of head trauma.. most of us know of people who had fights outside of nightclubs, were knocked down, and suffered a head injury resulting in death or permanent damage.

Also, TBH I tend to associate getting handsy of a girl, harassment, etc with young men, or teenagers, because they're still learning what's the right way to behave, often confused by the mixes signals they get from different girls. That's not excusing their behaviour... but there is a learning process involved, and many women/girls are not.. similar in what they want from a guy. Most "men" I know would have gotten over that kind of attitude or behaviour by their mid-20s. So, perhaps we should consider where these activities occur, and what kind of environment the learning takes place? Perhaps consider that we might want to teach both males/females how to behave together, so that they avoid picking up bad habits, in the mistaken belief that they're acceptable (there are a lot of habits that women adopt when they're young which are rather nasty too).

That's not true and a total cop out. I know many men who were greatly influenced by their mothers, myself included. Most children spend far more time with their mothers, than their fathers (It's been the complaint from women's rights groups that society still expects mothers to raise children while the men work.. a gender stereotype or role stereotype that continues for many families)

Also a significant percentage of all teachers in formal education are female, and yet, somehow it is other men who influence all boys in their path. It's a cop out. Yes, fathers and other men do influence us, but for many of us, we actually end up spending more time with women than men. So. perhaps it's worth considering what boys are learning from women, than simply passing the buck on to men. And no, that's not blaming women... it's merely that we should consider all influencers in a childs development rather than repeating the tired out sentiment of traditional gender roles.

There are problems in modern society, and we need to spend time looking at all the components that influence those problems. There's a tendency to give the influence of women in society a free pass, except when it relates to something positive. Just as you have done above, but if we really want to resolve these problems we need to look at the underlying causes, and that means looking at both genders without bias. And that's not a dig at "women"... As with "Men" they don't have much actual influence over how society develops...