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Retr0gamer · 04-02-2022 7:16pm

I grew up with a megadrive and despite being a Sega fanboy knew Mario was much better. Just the level design was much better and so where the controls. I mean sonic is good but Mario is god tier and hard to match.

pixelburp · 04-02-2022 7:21pm

I've found Sonic games to be far more limited in scope, slave to a one trick pony than Mario. Sonic had maybe one or two solidly greats games. Both ultimately are brands but "Mario" comes with it a confidence the game would be good; be it platformer, RPG, sports game etc etc. Conversely, "Sonic" to me means shovelware at this stage, lazy and slapdash games.

Potential-Monke · 04-02-2022 7:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118582665#Comment_118582665

Ah now

Zero-Cool · 04-02-2022 7:35pm

As someone who grew up always having both Sega and Nintendo (i wish i appreciated it how good i had it more), Mario was the better game but Sonic had some absolutely magical moments between level design, colours, music and speed.

Penn · 04-02-2022 7:42pm

Never really played any Mario games growing up as we all had Mega Drives, so always gravitate more towards Sonic. There are definitely areas where I feel the Sonic games beat Mario, but overall I can't deny the Mario games are just meticulously crafted and balanced.

Retr0gamer · 04-02-2022 8:27pm

The best Mario games take an idea and explore it fully in one level and then move on to explore a brand new idea in the next. The thing about Mario is that they explore one of these ideas on one level where an idea would take a while game to explore that level.

Sonic plays great. It's different from Mario in that sonic is more controllable when he has momentum but there's not a whole lot you can do with that gameplay. Sonic just doesn't have the variety Mario has but I do love how sonic games have different criss crossing routes through levels and reward replayability whereas Mario games are more exploration based.

RocketRaccoon · 04-02-2022 8:30pm

I love both but no sonic game will ever come close to the enjoyment you can get from Odyssey.

Penn · 04-02-2022 8:48pm

One of my all-time favourite moments in gaming was getting the lend of Sonic 2 from my cousin, plugging it into my Sonic & Knuckles, and playing Sonic 2 as Knuckles. That blew my tiny little mind.

Taylor365 · 04-02-2022 9:18pm

There's Sonic 2, then there is Super Mario World and everything that came after it.

Sonic peaked at Sonic 2.

Don't THINK Sonic 3 made it to our shelves as no one i know ever played it. Even have Sonic 3D sitting here in its box (ahem waiting a new home ahem) but have never played sonic 3.

marcbrophy · 04-02-2022 9:33pm

I had Sonic 3

Penn · 04-02-2022 9:46pm

Yeah a friend had Sonic 3 as well.

marcbrophy · 04-02-2022 11:02pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118583361#Comment_118583361

Also, like you said earlier, when in popped in the sonic 2 cartridge and could play that game as Knuckles, I still think that was a wizard that did that 😀

Penn · 04-02-2022 11:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118583891#Comment_118583891

At least with Sonic 3 it made sense, as it and S&K were supposed to be one game that ended up being split in two if I remember right. With Sonic 2, playing as Knuckles was insane because he could climb walls higher than Tails could fly... I still don't understand it ...

Vicxas · 04-02-2022 11:18pm

So GTA VI is in active development it seems

TitianGerm · 04-02-2022 11:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118584062#Comment_118584062

The big issue I've had with rockstar games is the controls just feel wrong.

05-02-2022 12:00am

I love classic Sonic and Mario. But Super Mario World probably won the 16 bit platformer award. Sonic 2 not far behind.

TitianGerm · 05-02-2022 12:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118582970#Comment_118582970

I only played older Mario games at friends houses as we had a Mega drive so I've no childhood love for the Italian plumber but Odyssey is an absolute joy. My favourite game on Switch. Loved Luigi's mansion as well.

SuperBowserWorld · 05-02-2022 12:41am

I was very disappointed by Sonic and the Megadrive in general. Think I got it on sale, even though I really wanted a SNES. Sonic is a PITA to control.

A few years later got a SNES and Super Mario World and Super Mario All Stars. Absolutely wonderful. Even if they were PAL versions.

That was it, never went near Sega or Sony, who I saw as Sega's successor, with similar "edgy" marketing. Even now I see Sony and Microsoft with the same marketing. They need to grow up 😁

Exclamation Marc · 05-02-2022 12:41am

I somehow ended up with Dying Light 2 today. I brought in FIFA 22, COD Vanguard, GOTG and Deathloop to trade into Gamestop and ended up with over €200 credit so after paying off Horizon FW and Lego Skywalker Saga Deluxe Edition I panicked and took Dying Light 2 for free and still left €40 to preorder something random.

Looking forward to giving it a blast. I see they released a Day One patch that fixes over 1000 bugs which is great as a lot of reviews highlighted the many bugs in their review copy. Ah ya miss the days that you bought a game on a tape or cartridge and that was that, good or bad!

05-02-2022 1:16am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118584821#Comment_118584821

You're missing out , boy. Big time.

McFly85 · 05-02-2022 8:43am

Love them both! They’re different enough to not allow for a direct comparison. Mario is unquestionably the better platformer but loved the speed of sonic games. And the music in Sonic games is amazing!

Retr0gamer · 05-02-2022 11:36am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118583991#Comment_118583991

Then let me break the illusion. The S&K cart has a rom chip on it containing the sonic 2 with knuckles hack. When it detected sonic 2 it just booted that rom instead of the sonic 2 cart or S&K. No magic unfortunately.

AlmightyCushion · 05-02-2022 12:41pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118585626#Comment_118585626

Finding this out really annoys me. I didn't have Sonic 2 cartridge. We had a cartridge with Sonic 1, 2 and Dr Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine. If you put that into Sonic and Knuckles it wouldn't do anything so the only time I played Knuckles in Sonic 2 is when I borrowed a friends Sonic 2.

SuperBowserWorld · 05-02-2022 1:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118584920#Comment_118584920

Will get a PS when the next iteration of PS5 comes out and I can get one. And I manage to set aside a few months or 12 to catch up. 😁😁

05-02-2022 1:13pm

Here's how the Sonic & Knuckles technology worked:

https://youtu.be/9-4SApbrYH0

Benzino · 05-02-2022 2:01pm

Sonic Pinball was the best Sonic.

Retr0gamer · 05-02-2022 2:06pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586100#Comment_118586100

A will you stop. It ran at 30 fps as well to make it extra shite. Dev team too inexperienced to code in assembly so coded in C which nuked the framerate.

Benzino · 05-02-2022 2:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586125#Comment_118586125

Ah I wasn't being serious 😂 If I recall correctly, it was a challenging game though (at least for young Benzi), which I enjoyed.

Retr0gamer · 05-02-2022 3:26pm

As long as nobody is saying crash bandicoot is better than both. It's not even close to the best of ps1. I'd say we need a klonoa remake but we did get one on the Wii and nobody bought it 😢

JimBurnley · 05-02-2022 3:55pm

All this talk of Mario & Sonic reminds me how great Crash Bandocoot was - imo the best of all 3 and certainly the best the PS1 had to offer....

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